Spiral Light Show over Norway

[Peregrinus]

So I just noticed that within a month of the spiral light over Norway there was an earthquake in Haiti.
Also within a month of the spiral light over China in 2008, there was a massive earthquake there in Sichuan.

[BrownEye]

This isn't a spiral but its still cool...probably the third i've seen in 5 years.

http://www.colinandrews.net/Cloud-Radar-...-0116.html

[transiten]

So I just noticed that within a month of the spiral light over Norway there was an earthquake in Haiti.
Also within a month of the spiral light over China in 2008, there was a massive earthquake there in Sichuan.

Well i've seen a graph of the HAARPexperiment shoot up the day before the earthquake and come down the day after on a video, will look it up. Also it shows that Haiti is very rich in oil...coincidence?

http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?opti...12%3Ahaiti

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[Questioner]

By the way, if i want to "eliminate" a post of mine, how do i proceed??

Go to the post and click its Report button on the bottom right. This will put your message into the moderators' to-do inbox. Just put a note something like "oops can you delete this for me please" and they'll take care of it for you. Even better, it looks like they turned on the feature where you can delete your own post with the red X next to the Edit button. But you can always use Report to get their attention about any post.

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Also it shows that Haiti is very rich in oil...coincidence?

Wow, that's sure a fear & anger driven conspiracy site. I'm not saying they're wrong, just that it looks like they work really, really hard to find ways to upset themselves and their readers with speculation about the shenanigans of elites who terrify them.

If the information they have is accurate, I'd have a much easier time learning about it from someone like David Wilcock who has a generally positive perspective of a spiritual big picture, one in which the "good guys" are going to win.

[Peregrinus]

haha, the good guys ARE going to win! Earth, that is... there really is no win or lose though when it comes to unity.

As Q'uo said, there will be "a short run in the increase of sts negative activity", as the sts are working towards gaining polarity with all they have right now. They know their time is short and are already jockeying for position when they ascend.

[transiten]

Thanks questioner!

Yes i agree this website is full o fearmongeringarticles, but not all of them has to be disinformation. Here's a link from the Benjamin Fulfordthread on Divinecosmos with yet another theory that the primary target was the banking system and the weapon was not HAARP but a Nicola Tesla-nuclear technology, and since it's been allowed by the mods on DC the post it is not seen as fearmongering:

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

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[transiten]

Hi

Just prior to the earthquake in Haiti it was revelaed that the harbour of Port-au-Prince is full of oil....

http://www.prevalhaiti.com/i/logo.gif

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...well it didn't work but just google "Oil reseves in Haiti" and a lot of links will show up among them one that suggests that drilling for oil can have caused the earthquake...now we're far away from the Norway Spiral that ended up here.

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[Questioner]

Hi Transiten,

I'd like to share some of my perspective about discernment regarding material we find in spiritual forums online, including this one. My perspective may well be different than yours. If so, I'd be happy to learn about your perspective. Perhaps there is some positive influence we can have with what resonates for each other. Or perhaps we will find that we have different needs in our spiritual evolution that are served by differing approaches to discernment.

I agree that we can look at two different qualities of a message.
1. Is the information factual?
2. Is the presentation based on love or on fear?

There is the message, and then wrapped around it like bread around sandwich fillings, is the message about the message.

There are sometimes some loving people who say things that are inaccurate. If you honor their love you can't go wrong with being loved. But if you honor their mistakes you could go wrong in your understanding of the subject matter. This is like a sandwich with wonderful tasty bread, but the filling ingredients have gone bad.

There are sometimes fearful, anxious, or controlling people who say things that are accurate. The information might be solid facts you can take to the bank. But the surrounding attitude could be toxic. This is like a sandwich with healthy ingredients inside, but wrapped up in moldy old bread. If you are enticed by the good filling to take a big bite, you might get indigestion.

In the first example, of loving people who are mistaken, you can separate the bread from the filling. Take in what you can use - the loving care - while you leave aside what you can't use - the mistaken confusion.

The very open message about the message is: "please enjoy what resonates with you, and if something doesn't resonate with you, we love you anyway even if you choose a different spiritual path."

This is what I love the most about the positive messages, such as those from L/L Research. The other channels I consider positive all say their own version of The Disclaimer, which is a sign of respect and goodwill.

In the second example, of unkind people who have facts, they tend to not be interested in this separation. The hidden message about the message is: "respect my words, and also live in fear and respect cowering under my authority!" Or perhaps the message is, "because this bad news is the truth, you should live a scared life in which you see yourself as powerless against a predatory elite!"

Now an interesting thing about the moldy bread is that you're not allowed to discuss the fact that anything was wrapped around the ingredients inside.

If material comes directly from David Wilcock, I'm confident that it is wrapped up in the best package of loving service-to-others kindness that he knows how to reach for. As with most of us, he has some blind spots that provide opportunity for spiritual evolution to replace defensiveness. As I see it, these blind spots occasionally let him introduce rather scary conspiracy material that, even if true, does not promote seeking the love inherent in each moment.

In my mind, when I think of the spiritual sandwiches he offers, it is easy enough to trim off those untasty edges and enjoy the rest of the meal. As with any buffet, some of his material is truly delicious and some isn't what I like to take in right now.

I'm less confident about the remainder of his site. In particular, I'm dismayed that so much of the home page is now given over to Larry Seyer's promotion of the ACIM material. While I believe, in my own opinion, that Larry is a sincere spiritual seeker, I have some extremely grave concerns about ACIM as a tool of manipulation that inspires fearful abdication of control. When I discuss my own personal history later this year, I'll make the connection explicit. It would take us too far afield for me to try to summarize that material I haven't presented yet. I'll just leave the topic by saying that just because something is on the divinecosmos site doesn't necessarily mean that it's either factual in its core, or lovingly presented.

Now this concern also applies to the dc forums. It's a busy, high volume set of forums. It may take their moderators a while to get around to messages that don't fit the theme. And just because moderators let a post stand, doesn't necessarily mean the content of the post reflects David's spiritual perspective. Even less does the presence of a link in a forum post prove that the moderators have evaluated the content of the link, in order to wisely evaluate both content and presentation of the third party site.

Without seeing the dc forum post that introduced the link, I don't know anything about the motivations of the person who provided it, or their understanding of the Law of One, or whether they have a polarization, or if so, what it is. To me, the presence of a link in a dc forum post proves only that the post either doesn't violate the dc terms of service, or it does but hasn't been caught by their mods yet.

Leaving aside the "meat" of the material about HAARP and Haiti, what is the "bread" of the fulford blog site? As I see it, it's an increase of both fear that the elites will destroy us, and hope that the competing elites will save us. If there is material there to inspire us to study, meditate, love one another in our daily lives, seek to embody the endless creative initiative of the One Creator rather than wait for elites to define our lives... I just haven't seen it yet.

Since the "meat," if true, is material I can't use to be more loving to my neighbor today; and the "bread" smells funny to me; I'm going to set aside that particular fulford blog site for now as regards my own time for study and meditation. If it's tasty and filling to you, please don't let my reticence keep you from the full enjoyment of whatever blesses you.

[transiten]

Goodevening questioner,

Thing is in the beginning i was posting about and questionning a lot of whistleblowers that i didn't feel resonated with Davids message and that the mods did not approve because of the "fearmongeringfactor". Later on these whistleblowers were accepted by David and then it suddenly was OK to mention them.

I especially remember the uneasy feeling i got as i watched a video with Benjamin Fulford and the alleged Italian Illuminati whistleblower Zagami. This is truly paradoxical. I've always been interested in the "hidden agendas" and if noone was investigating these dark corners of the human experience where would we be today? And if noone had had the courage to report about the genocide in Germany during WWII, the digging journalists who put their lives at stake to tell us the truth...

I also have a problem with ACIM...I look forward to read yor story.

The trolls will crack in the sunlight and what's important is the INTENTION behind bringing these atrocities out of the caves.

This is truly paradoxical and i truly yearn for beauty and peace at the moment. We must learn how to contain both the light and the darkness within a difficult act of balance.

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[Questioner]

Transiten, I like the way you put it and I share your concerns about exposing the dark vs. not getting trapped in it. It is indeed a challenge.

[Ali Quadir]

I love your observations Transiten.. Fear porn sells. It's quite unfortunate that David fell for this...

[ayadew]

It's easier to see the light if you're lost in darkness

[fairyfarmgirl]

Fear Porn. Now that's a term that resonates with me! I think I will refer to all of that that is not Love as Fear porn! LOL

fairyfarmgirl

[transiten]

It's easier to see the light if you're lost in darkness

That was funny ayadew! I sent you an e-mail but you haven't answered yet. My health is up and down and yesterday i had my sinusitis coming back but the is shining as you can see also today in Gothenburg so
"I try to hold my spirits high" that made rhymes unintentionally.

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The Norway Spiral goes viral

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[colorado]

Transiten, I like the way you put it and I share your concerns about exposing the dark vs. not getting trapped in it. It is indeed a challenge.

I agree.

I have come to my own decision that I just won't worry about it. Are there conspiracies out there to manipulate, hurt people, and control the world, etc? Maybe. I have just decided that in the end, it doesn't really matter. In the end we each control our own spiritual growth. This personally allows me to have a much more balanced view point on negatively oriented things.

[Questioner]

Transiten, I just looked up your weather forecast and that is too cold for me!

I don't know if this will translate OK. Let's give it a try.

[ayadew]

The swedes are quite fine I suppose, I'm more worried about the foreigners that comes here to study from warmer places. there's a man from India in my corridor and he's literally freezing his butt off. He's used to having 20+ C constantly.

So strange weather.. hurricanes, extreme cold/warmth and now the sun is getting into a new maunders minimum.