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    Thread: Meditation


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    #121
    06-04-2014, 08:09 AM (This post was last modified: 06-04-2014, 08:49 AM by Dani.)
    (06-03-2014, 05:59 AM)sunnysideup Wrote: I'm glad to hear, Dani. How's the pup and kitten doing by the way?

    They're doing alright. They have a lot of energy! >^.^< U^.^U
    We've been dealing with fleas, which are mostly taken care of. Unfortunately, one flea is one too many.

    (06-03-2014, 07:35 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'm glad things are clearer for you Dani. Meditation must be working.

    I'm much too jittery for meditation lately.
    Thank you. BigSmile
    I guess meditation is working. I'm still dealing with some problems, which are minor at the moment compared to what I've dealt with before. I've carried a fear of meditation because it caused seizures before due to CSF over-drainage. Lately, I've felt release of pressure that was probably from shunt blockage during meditation and occasionally at other times. Meditation is probably helping to clear most of the problems up.
    Of course, I'm still concerned about some things, but I'm much happier than I have been. I'm just happy to be able to see across a room and follow conversations decently well. Smile

    I'm sorry to hear that you've been jittery. Have you tried doing many relaxation techniques?

    (06-03-2014, 10:48 PM)Regulus Wrote: Almost done with that story I had intended to share with you, Dani. I’ll post it on this Meditation thread of yours when it’s complete—just a little longer for me to solidify it


    -Regulus

    I'm not sure what your story is about. Could you give me a hint? Smile

    (06-03-2014, 11:30 PM)Adonai One Wrote: My view on meditation after exploring its truest meaning: Willful meditation with a implicit goal in mind is unproductive. It was designed for relaxation and detachment, not for pursuing enlightenment by force.

    Forcing oneself through meditation sounds unhealthy, but that may just be my opinion.
    All things take time, of course. Without time, there is no occurrence. Therefore, patience should take place.

    I'm just...so happy to be able to see everything so well! With emotional and physical issues set aside, I'm pretty happy to have stars in my sky. Smile
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    06-05-2014, 02:51 AM
    You are doing so well, Dani, despite all your problems. What a spirit! Keep up your good work, dear brother! Smile
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    06-05-2014, 08:46 AM
    (06-03-2014, 11:30 PM)Adonai One Wrote: My view on meditation after exploring its truest meaning: Willful meditation with a implicit goal in mind is unproductive. It was designed for relaxation and detachment, not for pursuing enlightenment by force.

    I'v used force before and although you can get there it's certainly not recommended. I was a bit naive but it was an interesting experience none the less.

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    06-06-2014, 10:50 AM (This post was last modified: 06-06-2014, 11:22 AM by Dani.)
    (06-05-2014, 02:51 AM)Ankh Wrote: You are doing so well, Dani, despite all your problems. What a spirit! Keep up your good work, dear brother! Smile

    Thank you, Ankh. I encourage you to live a nice life as well. <3

    (06-05-2014, 08:46 AM)Rake Wrote:
    (06-03-2014, 11:30 PM)Adonai One Wrote: My view on meditation after exploring its truest meaning: Willful meditation with a implicit goal in mind is unproductive. It was designed for relaxation and detachment, not for pursuing enlightenment by force.

    I'v used force before and although you can get there it's certainly not recommended. I was a bit naive but it was an interesting experience none the less.

    Maybe you could try meditation again without force, Rake? Once someone is able to meditate without force, they will find a universe that is incredibly relaxing. There, everything seems to be right. <3

    ",,,and things just, you know, cleared up on their own." she says with a laugh while strange pulsations are felt within my skull...but what does she know? After all, she didn't want peace to show its face in our hearts, anyway.

    "I think you're done with that-I really do." What does he know? He hasn't felt those feelings or understood those situations and shall remain ignorant simply because of his own chemical functions.

    Hey, at least I can still tell where I am. Smile

    One year ago today, I woke in a tense shell with fear while my location wasn't familiar. Every atom that surrounded me in this lack of peace relaxed when my shifting eyes caught the kneading of glorious cotton in the distance. This blanket that shrouded another universe resembled something like Heaven.
    When I woke again, the lighter mind functioned as though it inhabited another being. In that moment, all was clear.

    With only minor difficulties compared to previous days, I have now made it through a year without painful seizures. Not my most limber imagination could stretch itself to these skies when my body would swallow uncontrollable pain every night.

    I hope this will lead me to a new kind of freedom.
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    06-06-2014, 03:53 PM
    (06-04-2014, 08:09 AM)Dani Wrote: I'm not sure what your story is about. Could you give me a hint? Smile

    A story of growth, meaning and purpose
    —

    To Dani:

    A past still with me this day, recalling some tiresome nights pushing buttons on the register; standing long days in mid-December within a whirl with so many customers buying last minute gifts for the holidays while I await the clock to strike 10. And finally, closing time, doors behind us locked. It drizzled, and I walked away, drove off tired, falling asleep on the wheel, on a bed to the patter of the rain, never wanting to wake

    Because the waking life was a living nightmare and soon I wouldn’t have a place to sleep in let alone continue my path to a university towards the end of high school having lost all financial backings. Forced to shift focus from studies to securing roof over the head, food in the stomach, and quickly running out of time in Cali where human resources were a dime/dozen, sustainability was not probable with a part-time minimum wage job

    Wacky social system—bizarre, fragment sort of dream. Many around changed for no apparent reason, switching faces at whim from unfamiliar students to hateful gossips around the corner, glaring. Those once classmates were now vultures circling about when chips are down, ready to feast on one in dire need of help while others stood by for entertainment and watched. No, people haven’t changed; I simply woke up and opened my eyes

    —could this mentality be the mob, I wondered at a restaurant with a friend, spending more than I earned and it didn’t mattered. If I’d spent none it wouldn’t matter and I knew that. More absorbed in thought I became, the faster pendulum swung with every tick of the clock delirium inched in like bad company—one of those “crazies” no one cared for, fumbling on the side gesturing, muttering to themselves because it’s over for them and words don’t matter, and they know that

    Still they whisper to themselves murmurs of how things could have been different, handled differently somehow, someone was to blame. Reasoning in circles, spiraling descent into despair and desperately losing grip of the life that once was, a life they once knew undone unto hollow reality of a husk in shame, in sorrow. Empty, frigid stares ‘til dark

    Nothing left, only ocean and silence. But listen, the wind is calling, swaying and whistle and black leaves rustle. So tranquil, that breeze—beautiful. Last breath of humanity relinquished on frozen grounds never to wake

    Those of Hatonn Wrote:..you cannot deal with your culture, with your surroundings, with your life as it is, with the old heart, with the old spirit, with the human frailties. No, my friends. As if they were skins, you must shed them and allow a transformation to take place within you

    “Create in me a new heart and make a right spirit within me.”

    Life stem from dead soil. How unexpected, could this be growth—all this for a new heart, remarkable. A new beginning in Carolina with promise of a place to stay, affordable cost of living, opportunities, and the will to live on

    So I traveled from coast to coast and for the first time held real snow in the sun. Pleasant yet short lived, merely lasted 2 months because my brother who had given me the ticket was also unstable with a wife offering more catalysts than he could imagine, threatening to take his child away. But two months was enough time to land a 03/10 sales position, loan for a car, my own apartment, college courses, much needed time to heal, time for plans and a little rest

    Those of Hatonn Wrote:There is a curious peace to be gained from knowing that you are capable of using those things which are given you, not just those things which are transitorily joyful, but those things which are of transitory pain. This peace, indeed, passes understanding, for it means that in no circumstances are you without propriety, that those things which do not seem to have a purpose do have a purpose

    Connect the dots with another playing role of the pauper, asking for money in the streets. I try (unsuccessful at times) to understand for them (instead of relying on memories of how disappointing people could be) because he could also be that other side of me who wished someone would understand his circumstances. And for that split second: a glimpse of recognition in their grateful eyes as they thoroughly search and identified mine. I’m so sorry; have this, but your trials are yours

    Those of Hatonn Wrote:You as people have a great responsibility for you are part of a planetary consciousness which desperately needs those who can love rather than feel negative feelings, who can feel compassion rather than judgment, who can be a mirror edged with [hope] rather than a black hole, sucking all that is good from the creation by sheer gravity

    Sometimes I think to send little armies at certain people and others to the void, though it’s less and less necessary. I read someone excommunicating another on this forum the other day and that was pretty funny to me, but figure now is not the time to get snarky because there will be times of peace looking back with understanding of who we really are, to know ourselves a little better one drop at a time

    “My life amounts to no more than one drop in a limitless ocean. Yet what is any ocean, but a multitude of drops?” ―Cloud Atlas

    Those of Telonn Wrote:I wish to say to you with all my heart, my friends, look up. Pay attention, my friends. Every day, every breath is fantastic. Don’t lose time, my friends. Don’t lose consciousness. That which you are experiencing is precious unto you. Horde it and be aware of it. You are experiencing physical existence. This is very precious, my friends. You will not find such intensity possible in other forms of existence. You will not find the ability to experience with such rapidity and such purity those things which you call emotions. Each moment is a moment of adventure and magic. My friends, look up..

    Clear skies, a sigh of relief—that breeze again. Beautiful

    Harsh rain does bring water to promising gardens. May we see in new light after the clearing for I also believe your trials have meaning and purpose. Ask in peaceful prayers the highest and best for those we hold dear. Ask that we also be loved and there is faith all will be reflected because life is a circular cycle striding thru full seasons never knowing when flowers may bloom, only they do bloom with nourishing intent under right conditions

    And that which flourishes are yours to keep for always because it has become a part of you, or rather it is just you learning a bit about yourself, acknowledging, understanding, and embracing that birthright portion of the self: ever there, already inside, realizing it is you—that love and that light. All there is

    Look up, Dani, there would be days glancing back with gold stars and a light heart smiling and applauding this play we call life


    -Regulus
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    #126
    06-07-2014, 06:22 AM
    Thank you for sharing, Regulus. May you have some form of peace in your days. Smile

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    06-07-2014, 04:39 PM
    (06-07-2014, 06:22 AM)Dani Wrote: Thank you for sharing, Regulus. May you have some form of peace in your days. Smile

    Why thank you, I am very much at ease these days running a business partnership that is consider more for fun than an actual job, getting paid while seeing the world—2 remaining states left to visit, traveling abroad next

    Though past scars and diamonds in the rough are for keeps, always with me. I like 'em, wouldn’t trade them


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    06-08-2014, 10:37 PM
    Why thank you, I am very much at ease these days running a business partnership that is consider more for fun than an actual job, getting paid while seeing the world—2 remaining states left to visit, traveling abroad next

    Though past scars and diamonds in the rough are for keeps, always with me. I like 'em, wouldn’t trade them


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    That sounds fun. Smile

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    06-09-2014, 12:18 PM
    I was never one for much traveling.

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    06-12-2014, 10:52 PM (This post was last modified: 06-12-2014, 10:54 PM by Dani.)
    (06-09-2014, 12:18 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I was never one for much traveling.

    @GeminiWolf: What about spiritual travelling? Smile Where have you traveled in the physical state?

    There is a part of me that says to move with the current of the populace and another part that says to have a heart for my own concerns. Thankfully, meditation seems to help.
    I hope that the past will be the past.

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    06-13-2014, 06:04 PM
    I never got far with spiritual traveling. Certainly not off the planet.
    Though I've had dreams of being outside of a star.
    Physically I've been to England and Panama outside of the US.
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    06-16-2014, 01:56 AM (This post was last modified: 06-16-2014, 01:58 AM by Dani.)
    That's cool. I'm not sure where Panama is.

    Meditation is amazing. It used to feel terrible, but I love being able to detach myself from reality through relaxation now.
    I've heard that meditation can help with cognition and frustration as well as anxiety issues. Personally, I think that meditation would be great for anyone. Smile
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    06-18-2014, 01:22 AM (This post was last modified: 06-18-2014, 01:29 AM by Dani.)
    While I was walking my dog today, the left side of my head felt like a needle was being stabbed into it while pressure was felt behind my ear. I don't understand what happened during shunt migration.
    At least I can still breathe well enough.
    My father suffered from some health complications today, saying that we can't imagine what it's like to have someone beloved hurt you while you're suffering.
    Indeed, I can, sir.
    Meditation doesn't seem to be bothering me yet.
    At least I can still see and breathe.

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    06-23-2014, 06:36 AM
    There has been occasional shunt pain that seem to last longer now than before, but I can still see and focus for the most part.
    Trying to control my emotions can be difficult, but that is partly because of stress. The other reason may be problems with my shunt. At least it's not very bad right now.
    I hope that nothing gets worse.
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    06-29-2014, 02:21 AM
    I've been trying to meditate prior to sleeping or upon waking up which is difficult when I've been falling asleep too quickly. I've been dreaming less often and experiencing more shunt pain and headaches, but things aren't as bad as they could be. Smile
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    07-01-2014, 01:38 AM
    Although the dream that i had earlier today was depressing, it was still a dream, so that means that I'm still doing alright. Smile
    Without remembering dreams, shunt problems will only get worse.
    Meditation is still helping, when I haven't fallen asleep too quickly.
    I wonder if meditation could help me with neuropathy or not?...

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    07-01-2014, 02:35 PM
    In meditation, you can ask your team to help you even more and give thanks for the help they are already giving you. I find this to be really helpful.
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    07-01-2014, 04:34 PM (This post was last modified: 07-01-2014, 04:35 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    (07-01-2014, 02:35 PM)Patrick Wrote: In meditation, you can ask your team to help you even more and give thanks for the help they are already giving you. I find this to be really helpful.

    Sometimes I'll get a warm feeling in my meditation when they're there. Sometimes an inspiring feeling of wellness. It does help fight the sadness and anxiety I sometimes feel. Though in meditation I never detach from reality. I do sometimes get really relaxed though and lose some feeling in my body.
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    07-06-2014, 02:28 AM (This post was last modified: 07-06-2014, 02:32 AM by Dani.)
    @Patrick: Thank you. I don't use a team. My "team" is made up of those who go out of their way to help me as I would try to help them; I have found many here. Smile
    Thank you for your words.

    @GeminiWolf: It's always nice to have some support from others. Smile
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    07-06-2014, 02:06 PM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VB6h_bWR3Y
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    07-12-2014, 01:42 AM
    Recently, someone told me to meditate through life with simplicity. This is what I do in meditation because it is a temporary release from the hectic blessing of an experience that humans call "life".
    I wish for all who breathe to find optimistic meaning.
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    07-14-2014, 12:53 AM
    Although some bothersome sensations linger consistently, meditation helps them to rest well enough in my head. Working the mind and body can help the soul find some peace. Smile
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    07-27-2014, 07:21 AM
    Things are never "perfect" but living can come close to what humans may perceive such a life to be.
    People that I love simply can't grasp how I've lived because their eyes are not mine. However, while they speak of being open-minded while closing themselves away, one listens intently. I hope that consideration lasts.
    I'm happy to have those who cherish my existence despite having some who despise it. There are many souls that I miss greatly but shall always keep close. Meditation is one way to feel closer to those who aren't physically present, opening the door to a spiritual and emotional presence.
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    08-14-2014, 01:04 AM
    As far as I know, I've only had one seizure in the past year and couple of months. I've become more aware of how my body is affected by certain things at this point in time. As usual, meditation is helping more than not right now. I hope that other people who have had seizures or have pain can be helped through meditation.

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    08-14-2014, 11:04 AM
    (08-14-2014, 01:04 AM)Dani Wrote: As far as I know, I've only had one seizure in the past year and couple of months. I've become more aware of how my body is affected by certain things at this point in time. As usual, meditation is helping more than not right now. I hope that other people who have had seizures or have pain can be helped through meditation.

    what are some of the things you experience during medtiation?

    have you ever had any metaphysical experiences, for example?

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    08-14-2014, 05:44 PM
    Hello.
    I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but if you're asking about something related to out-of-body experiences, then I guess so, yes.
    I hope you're having a nice day. Smile
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    08-15-2014, 11:23 AM
    I found that out of body experiences aren't always convincing. I have a friend who used to smoke weed and had a few of those experiences. He thinks it was his mind playing tricks on him. He's an atheist. I never would have thought that having a full blown out of body experience wouldn't be convincing as to the nature of the soul. I guess he thinks we don't have spirits.

    We are spiritual beings having a human experience. We are the Universe in a temporary human form. We are gods with amnesia.
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    08-16-2014, 04:12 PM
    I may be alone in this journey as a physical being, but, spiritually, I am not alone.
    All we can reach for is what we think is out there. If we are ignorant of what shares our level on the ground, how could we have company to fly with us to a new world? If we know no higher levels, where might we soar from?
    To those of you who have shown support, thank you.
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    08-22-2014, 05:31 AM (This post was last modified: 08-22-2014, 05:32 AM by Dani.)
    I've been looking through old photos, realizing that some seizures that I remember must have happened earlier than I thought. Most of them happened before my braces were off in high school, and I don't have braces in these old photos. Still, functioning, in every way, was difficult.
    Daily, I worry about my family and myself. One person claims that we're "healthy" when, in fact, we're not-we're just better off than we could be.
    Supposedly, I'm "past" problems, meaning they're not a problem anymore. Well, waking up is a reminder when there is pressure on my mind and permanent screaming in my ears.
    All I want is to help my family without an unreliable body. I don't know what I'd do if these problems worsened. Meditation helps when sleep doesn't strike too quickly; that sounds nice until more rest is required.
    At least we're alive today, right?...
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    08-22-2014, 07:18 AM (This post was last modified: 08-22-2014, 09:19 AM by Rake.)
    Does anyone find meditating with someone more advantageous?
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