Guardians of the quarantine doesnt seem infallible

[native]

The more you work on your own mental hang-ups, blockage is cleared which activates the next chakra. When this happens new ways of thinking come into your consciousness.

If you're able to remember, you can trace the 'densities of experience' from your childhood into adulthood, and examine how your thoughts changed while relating them to the specific energies they're linked to.

[zenmaster]

Ra says several times that one of wanderers' goals in coming to third density is to polarize. They don't suggest that this is true only for fourth- or fifth-density wanderers.

52.9This especially applies to those entering into and proceeding through sixth-density wherein the balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected.

If the majority of wanderers are 6D, then it seems that 'especially applies' would be a strong indicator of purpose.

[Steppingfeet]

In addition to βαθμιαίος's quotes I submit these two:

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=65&ss=1#19

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=66&ss=1#6

These quotes don't speak directly to the need to polarize/maintain polarity but do speak to the changed situation of the wanderer.

Unity100 wrote: "in 6th density, there is no polarity. this means, this is carried in the properties of 6th ray, since it is the actuator and provider of that density's meaning."

I grok what you're saying here, Ozgur, but there are plenty of other innate, intrinsic, seemingly inalienable properties of the sixth ray that manifest themselves in sixth density. For instance, Ra says that they no longer use light but have become light. Their individual members have melded into a unified whole. They can do things with consciousness which Ra cannot find English words to describe.

That's all got to be written into the DNA, so to speak, of the sixth ray, yet the wanderer becomes a very different creature in a very different environment upon entering third density. Whatever it's sixth ray was in sixth density, whatever it's level of understanding or situation with regards to polarity, it accepts limitations in the entrance to third density.

The sixth-density wanderer is no longer the entity who sees all things as one; no longer the entity who has, to a great extent, eliminated the illusion of separation. The sixth density wanderer becomes as seemingly separate as any other entity in third density, and becomes subject to the myriad illusions arising from separation, including fear, aggression, misunderstanding, panic, stress, animosity, worry, anxiety, bellicosity, jealousy, envy, so on and so forth.

The sixth-density wanderer jumps right into this fire in order to serve and to forge itself anew, working on balances, as Tobey's quotes indicate, between love and wisdom.

Ra: "The wanderer, if it remembers and dedicates itself to service, will polarize much more rapidly than is possible in the far more etiolated realms of higher density catalyst."

They don't insert an asterisk here and say, "*Except for sixth density wanderers who live among you without polarity, without participating in polarity, and without the need to polarize."

In the dance of polarity,
GLB

[unity100]

In addition to βαθμιαίος's quotes I submit these two:

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=65&ss=1#19

the quote you linked is curious in another way, by the way.

65.19 Questioner: Thank you. The forgetting process was puzzling me because you said that the fourth-density activated people who were here who had been harvested did not have the same forgetting problem. Could you tell me why the Wanderer loses his memory?

Ra: I am Ra. The reason is twofold. First, the genetic properties of the connection between the mind/body/spirit complex and the cellular structure of the body is different for third-density than for third/fourth-density.

Secondly, the free will of third-density entities needs be preserved. Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex. The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.

however this is not relevant to this topic.

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=66&ss=1#6

These quotes don't speak directly to the need to polarize/maintain polarity but do speak to the changed situation of the wanderer.

Unity100 wrote: "in 6th density, there is no polarity. this means, this is carried in the properties of 6th ray, since it is the actuator and provider of that density's meaning."

I grok what you're saying here, Ozgur, but there are plenty of other innate, intrinsic, seemingly inalienable properties of the sixth ray that manifest themselves in sixth density. For instance, Ra says that they no longer use light but have become light. Their individual members have melded into a unified whole. They can do things with consciousness which Ra cannot find English words to describe.

That's all got to be written into the DNA, so to speak, of the sixth ray, yet the wanderer becomes a very different creature in a very different environment upon entering third density. Whatever it's sixth ray was in sixth density, whatever it's level of understanding or situation with regards to polarity, it accepts limitations in the entrance to third density.

The sixth-density wanderer is no longer the entity who sees all things as one; no longer the entity who has, to a great extent, eliminated the illusion of separation. The sixth density wanderer becomes as seemingly separate as any other entity in third density, and becomes subject to the myriad illusions arising from separation, including fear, aggression, misunderstanding, panic, stress, animosity, worry, anxiety, bellicosity, jealousy, envy, so on and so forth.

The sixth-density wanderer jumps right into this fire in order to serve and to forge itself anew, working on balances, as Tobey's quotes indicate, between love and wisdom.

Ra: "The wanderer, if it remembers and dedicates itself to service, will polarize much more rapidly than is possible in the far more etiolated realms of higher density catalyst."

They don't insert an asterisk here and say, "*Except for sixth density wanderers who live among you without polarity, without participating in polarity, and without the need to polarize."

In the dance of polarity,
GLB

wanderer's situation changes, however as you can notice from the quotes, the changed situation is not a situation regarding the core of wanderer's existence, the mind/spirit complex - but the connection of this complex to the body complex. especially through cellular mechanisms.

had it been otherwise, you couldnt call the entity a wanderer. the entity would have become a 3d entity. it would have become an entity that has to go through all the way to 6th density through 4th, 5th again.

it feels like you are holding the unmanifested being of the entity and the manifested being of the entity, totally as one in these considerations, without making no differentiation in between them.

even if you claim that, the manifested being of the wanderer would need to polarize, this would in the end still imbalance the entity as a whole, because the unmanifested being of the entity would still retain its 6d qualities, at least in spirit.

ra says, the salvation of 3d is polarization, even though this imbalances the entity as a greater whole.

it can also be proposed that, the wanderers who incarnate in 3d, are generally wanderers which are lacking positive polarity, and hence, needing to polarize positively to balance their greater being.

however, no easy thumb rule can be put forth to mandate polarization for all entities in 3d, since leave aside the delicate balances of 6d entities etc, even 3d entities can themselves be unharvestable/imbalanced if they let go of their violet balance while trying to polarize positively.

[Bring4th_Austin]

ra says, the salvation of 3d is polarization, even though this imbalances the entity as a greater whole.

I'm not quite sure I grasp what you mean here, but I think you mean what makes us harvestable is polarization?

In that case, it is true that polarization will allow us to meet harvestability, but Ra placed great emphasis on balance as being another requirement, so I'm not follwing your statement of "even though this imbalances the entity as a greater whole."

40.4 Questioner: Then bodily energy centers for an individual, assuming that the individual evolves in a straight line from first through to eighth density, would then be activated to completion if everything worked as it should? Would each chakra be activated to completion and greatest intensity by the end of the experience in each density?
Ra: I am Ra. Hypothetically speaking, this is correct. However, the fully activated being is rare. Much emphasis is laid upon the harmonies and balances of individuals. It is necessary for graduation across densities for the primary energy centers to be functioning in such a way as to communicate with intelligent infinity and to appreciate and bask in this light in all of its purity. However, to fully activate each energy center is the mastery of few, for each center has a variable speed of rotation or activity. The important observation to be made once all necessary centers are activated to the minimal necessary degree is the harmony and balance between these energy centers.

41.18 Questioner: Thank you. In the session from the day before yesterday you mentioned variable speed of rotation or activity of energy centers. What did you mean by that?
Ra: I am Ra. Each energy center has a wide range of rotational speed or as you may see it more clearly in relation to color, brilliance. The more strongly the will of the entity concentrates upon and refines or purifies each energy center, the more brilliant or rotationally active each energy center will be. It is not necessary for the energy centers to be activated in order in the case of the self-aware entity. Thusly entities may have extremely brilliant energy centers while being quite unbalanced in their violet ray aspect due to lack of attention paid to the totality of experience of the entity.

The key to balance may then be seen in the unstudied, spontaneous, and honest response of entities toward experiences, thus using experience to the utmost, then applying the balancing exercises and achieving the proper attitude for the most purified spectrum of energy center manifestation in violet ray. This is why the brilliance or rotational speed of the energy centers is not considered above the balanced aspect or violet ray manifestation of an entity in regarding harvestability; for those entities which are unbalanced, especially as to the primary rays, will not be capable of sustaining the impact of the love and light of intelligent infinity to the extent necessary for harvest.

[unity100]

ra says, the salvation of 3d is polarization, even though this imbalances the entity as a greater whole.

I'm not quite sure I grasp what you mean here, but I think you mean what makes us harvestable is polarization?

In that case, it is true that polarization will allow us to meet harvestability, but Ra placed great emphasis on balance as being another requirement, so I'm not follwing your statement of "even though this imbalances the entity as a greater whole."

40.4 Questioner: Then bodily energy centers for an individual, assuming that the individual evolves in a straight line from first through to eighth density, would then be activated to completion if everything worked as it should? Would each chakra be activated to completion and greatest intensity by the end of the experience in each density?
Ra: I am Ra. Hypothetically speaking, this is correct. However, the fully activated being is rare. Much emphasis is laid upon the harmonies and balances of individuals. It is necessary for graduation across densities for the primary energy centers to be functioning in such a way as to communicate with intelligent infinity and to appreciate and bask in this light in all of its purity. However, to fully activate each energy center is the mastery of few, for each center has a variable speed of rotation or activity. The important observation to be made once all necessary centers are activated to the minimal necessary degree is the harmony and balance between these energy centers.

41.18 Questioner: Thank you. In the session from the day before yesterday you mentioned variable speed of rotation or activity of energy centers. What did you mean by that?
Ra: I am Ra. Each energy center has a wide range of rotational speed or as you may see it more clearly in relation to color, brilliance. The more strongly the will of the entity concentrates upon and refines or purifies each energy center, the more brilliant or rotationally active each energy center will be. It is not necessary for the energy centers to be activated in order in the case of the self-aware entity. Thusly entities may have extremely brilliant energy centers while being quite unbalanced in their violet ray aspect due to lack of attention paid to the totality of experience of the entity.

The key to balance may then be seen in the unstudied, spontaneous, and honest response of entities toward experiences, thus using experience to the utmost, then applying the balancing exercises and achieving the proper attitude for the most purified spectrum of energy center manifestation in violet ray. This is why the brilliance or rotational speed of the energy centers is not considered above the balanced aspect or violet ray manifestation of an entity in regarding harvestability; for those entities which are unbalanced, especially as to the primary rays, will not be capable of sustaining the impact of the love and light of intelligent infinity to the extent necessary for harvest.

firstly, ra mentions that case in regard to greater balance of the entity, in imbalancing entity towards love, foregoing wisdom, which needs to be balanced later in 5d. positive, or negative, doesnt matter.

second, the consideration we are discussing in this particular case is the position of wanderers in this situation - since a 6d entity would already come up with a certain balance, insistently polarizing could upset that balance. and this would not be wise unless the entity would need to actually balance itself by distorting the existing balance. (lack of any kind of polarization to balance into a 6d balance).

[βαθμιαίος]

ra says, the salvation of 3d is polarization, even though this imbalances the entity as a greater whole.

The actual quote is that compassion, not polarization, is the salvation of third density.

It seems that you are still associating polarization with green ray. That's different than my understanding, which is that polarization is the capacity to do work.

[unity100]

ra says, the salvation of 3d is polarization, even though this imbalances the entity as a greater whole.

The actual quote is that compassion, not polarization, is the salvation of third density.

its a trait of 4th ray in the end.

It seems that you are still associating polarization with green ray. That's different than my understanding, which is that polarization is the capacity to do work.

yes, green ray is associated with polarization. its presence, indicates positive polarization (emission of light), and its lack, indicates negative polarization.

[βαθμιαίος]

yes, green ray is associated with polarization. its presence, indicates positive polarization (emission of light), and its lack, indicates negative polarization.

Polarization is the ability to enjoy a higher intensity of the light. For positive entities, this includes but is not limited to green ray. It also includes the balancing of the lower chakras and the activation of the higher ones.

For negative entities green ray is irrelevant since they skip it, moving directly from orange/yellow to indigo.

[unity100]

Polarization is the ability to enjoy a higher intensity of the light. For positive entities, this includes but is not limited to green ray. It also includes the balancing of the lower chakras and the activation of the higher ones.

For negative entities green ray is irrelevant since they skip it, moving directly from orange/yellow to indigo.

that is a very narrow definition of polarization if you look at it in its basic terms.

polarization is defined as emission of light, or absorption of light. nothing in regard to enjoying or using or other standards pass in regard to definition in definition polarization in the material. 51% emissions, or 95% absorption.

enjoying a certain intensity of light passes only in the definition of harvest requirement for 4d. this may be positive, or negative, and that's that.

[βαθμιαίος]

Perhaps "enjoy" is too narrow -- maybe "work with" would be better. Polarizing allows us to work with greater intensities of the light. In order to do that, we need to, as I said above, balance our lower chakras and activate our higher ones.

Enjoying/working with the light is not only the requirement for harvest into fourth density. It's also the requirement for harvest into fifth:

47.6 ...The ability to love, accept, and use a certain intensity of light thus creates the requirement for both positive and negative fourth to fifth harvesting.

The definition you give above ("polarization is defined as emission of light, or absorption of light") is actually the definition of the polarities. Polarization is moving towards one pole or the other.

But maybe this is just a semantic issue. You and I agree, I believe, on the need to balance the lower chakras and that too much focus on green ray can be unwise.

[unity100]

The definition you give above ("polarization is defined as emission of light, or absorption of light") is actually the definition of the polarities. Polarization is moving towards one pole or the other.

yes, polarity. then polarization is just moving toward one or the other. since the practical implication of this seems to take a different form at each density it would be wiser to stay on the base definition since it would transcend polarities.

But maybe this is just a semantic issue. You and I agree, I believe, on the need to balance the lower chakras and that too much focus on green ray can be unwise.

too much focus on any given ray, would, indeed be unwise. then again, depending on the situation the entity is in, it may need to focus on a certain ray rather in an imbalanced fashion to be able to keep a balance. (ie, the environment may be distorting a certain chakra too much).

[βαθμιαίος]

yes, polarity. then polarization is just moving toward one or the other. since the practical implication of this seems to take a different form at each density it would be wiser to stay on the base definition since it would transcend polarities.

The practical implication is not that different for third and fourth densities (enjoy the intensity of the light [3rd to 4th]; love, accept, and use a certain intensity of light [4th to 5th]).

The question we've been dancing around is why would Ra say that wanderers are here, in part, to polarize? My understanding is that polarization equates to an increased ability to do work (see 20.9 - 20.11), and that the ability to do work is valued in all the densities from which wanderers come.

[kycahi]

I'm starting to have the feeling that 3D is a space/time to waste, as so many undecided 3Ders do, but also is a good one consciously to achieve meaningful improvement, e.g. increase polarization. Ra implied (and I believe!) that 3D space/time experience is very catalytic, especially these times on this planet. So Wanderers, while being helpful to undecided 3Ders (we hope), can also experience some juicy catalysis for gaining useful personal properties. Just guessing.

[Tenet Nosce]

The question we've been dancing around is why would Ra say that wanderers are here, in part, to polarize? My understanding is that polarization equates to an increased ability to do work (see 20.9 - 20.11), and that the ability to do work is valued in all the densities from which wanderers come.

I think yes in many, but not all cases. We know that there are several types of Wanderers from the whole spectrum of densities, and not all of them are bent on increasing the Harvest. What do you suppose those other ones might be up to?

[unity100]

The question we've been dancing around is why would Ra say that wanderers are here, in part, to polarize? My understanding is that polarization equates to an increased ability to do work (see 20.9 - 20.11), and that the ability to do work is valued in all the densities from which wanderers come.

anything which builds up to the eventual desired violet balance of the entity is desired. this includes polarity.

but.

what matters is, how much.

insistently and doggedly polarizing because the entity is in wanderer status, may end up imbalancing the entity in its violet balance. in the end, violet balance is the balance which forms the basis of identifying what the entity 'is' at that point in time. skew that balance too much, and the amount of polarization wont matter.

[zenmaster]

The question we've been dancing around is why would Ra say that wanderers are here, in part, to polarize?

I don't think it's possible to have certain things enter our 3D experience (catalyst) without a certain degree of polarization. Some of those things that are to be worked with in 3D are key to expedited balancing and/or polarizing in home density.

[AnthroHeart]

Unity, so can we feel very much in balance and centered and at peace and still possibly have a violet ray that is very unbalanced? Or would we notice it?

[unity100]

Unity, so can we feel very much in balance and centered and at peace and still possibly have a violet ray that is very unbalanced? Or would we notice it?

that question is hard to even start to ponder. there are too many variables.

because there are endless factors effecting on an entity during an incarnation (and even during the incarnation they vary a lot over time) it is possible that the entity would seem quite imbalanced even to us even if the entity itself may have been quite balanced in violet ray.

a simple case is wanderers. despite having a more developed vibration and its accompanying balance, they may seem out of balance, and out of place in this society. this could be interpreted as various imbalances, had we not known that such a phenomenon existed.

[βαθμιαίος]

I think yes in many, but not all cases. We know that there are several types of Wanderers from the whole spectrum of densities, and not all of them are bent on increasing the Harvest. What do you suppose those other ones might be up to?

I was thinking of fourth, fifth, and sixth densities. What densities are you thinking of?

We weren't discussing increasing the harvest, although Ra does give that as the primary reason that wanderers come here. We were discussing a secondary reason Ra gave -- to take advantage of the intense catalyst here and polarize more rapidly than they could in their home densities.

insistently and doggedly polarizing because the entity is in wanderer status, may end up imbalancing the entity in its violet balance. in the end, violet balance is the balance which forms the basis of identifying what the entity 'is' at that point in time. skew that balance too much, and the amount of polarization wont matter.

When you use the term polarizing here are you still referring to green-ray activation?

I don't think it's possible to have certain things enter our 3D experience (catalyst) without a certain degree of polarization. Some of those things that are to be worked with in 3D are key to expedited balancing and/or polarizing in home density.

Right. Presumably anything that strikes an emotional chord is an opportunity to take advantage of the intense catalyst and polarize and/or balance.

[unity100]

When you use the term polarizing here are you still referring to green-ray activation?

overemphasis of green ray without accompanying blue and higher rays.

[βαθμιαίος]

overemphasis of green ray without accompanying blue and higher rays.

I just don't think that's what Ra meant by "polarizing."

If you think about the chakras, the north pole is violet ray. Moving towards the pole means moving towards violet ray. The green ray is in the middle, not at a pole.

To polarize, in the understanding that I have gleaned from Ra, is to move the locus of the meeting of the south pole outer energy and the north pole inner energy upwards. This must be done in a balanced and disciplined manner, which is why my understanding of polarization involves much more than green ray activity. It includes, for positive entities, balancing the lower centers, much careful work in accepting and forgiving self and others, blue-ray work (becoming able to radiate self regardless of other-self blockage), possibly indigo-ray work, and hopefully violet-ray work in addition to green-ray activation. It involves, in my understanding, wisdom (blue) and power (indigo) as well as love (green).

[unity100]

overemphasis of green ray without accompanying blue and higher rays.

I just don't think that's what Ra meant by "polarizing."

If you think about the chakras, the north pole is violet ray. Moving towards the pole means moving towards violet ray. The green ray is in the middle, not at a pole.

To polarize, in the understanding that I have gleaned from Ra, is to move the locus of the meeting of the south pole outer energy and the north pole inner energy upwards. This must be done in a balanced and disciplined manner, which is why my understanding of polarization involves much more than green ray activity. It includes, for positive entities, balancing the lower centers, much careful work in accepting and forgiving self and others, blue-ray work (becoming able to radiate self regardless of other-self blockage), possibly indigo-ray work, and hopefully violet-ray work in addition to green-ray activation. It involves, in my understanding, wisdom (blue) and power (indigo) as well as love (green).

such an approach doesnt fit in place. you are taking advancedness of an entity as polarization. north pole as a 'pole' in that context too.

[βαθμιαίος]

you are taking advancedness of an entity as polarization.

That's basically right.

[zenmaster]

I don't think it's possible to have certain things enter our 3D experience (catalyst) without a certain degree of polarization. Some of those things that are to be worked with in 3D are key to expedited balancing and/or polarizing in home density.

Right. Presumably anything that strikes an emotional chord is an opportunity to take advantage of the intense catalyst and polarize and/or balance.

Yes and the ignored emotions eventually become a pattern that manifests as physical catalyst. And before emotion takes hold, the intuition can also be used to see what needs to be addressed - that's often on a symbolic level, as we experience more or less unconsciously in dreams.

"The mind is a complex which reflects the in-pourings of the spirit and the up-pourings of the body complex. It contains what you know as feelings, emotions, and intellectual thoughts in its more conscious complexities. Moving further down the tree of mind we see the intuition which is of the nature of the mind more in contact or in tune with the total being-ness complex. Moving down to the roots of mind we find the progression of consciousness which gradually turns from the personal to the racial memory, to the cosmic influxes, and thus becomes a direct contactor of that shuttle which we call the spirit complex."

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you are taking advancedness of an entity as polarization.

That's basically right.

"The most important concept to grasp about the energy field is that the lower or negative pole will draw the universal energy into itself from the cosmos. Therefrom it will move upward to be met and reacted to by the positive spiraling energy moving downward from within. The measure of an entity’s level of ray activity is the locus wherein the south pole outer energy has been met by the inner spiraling positive energy." So what we can make of our 3D experience, as far as raising kundalini, is our polarization. This locus can also be thought of as a 'center of gravity' as far as core values being explored.

All 'centers' must be penetrated and balanced to some extent in order to 'graduate', because these centers are our microcosmic understanding of the 3D macrocosm - what it means to be 3D. These colors are the 'subdensities' as reflected in our minds, each with general archetypal themes provided by the logos.

[Raman]

.....All 'centers' must be penetrated and balanced to some extent in order to 'graduate'.....[.....]

Are you saying that the negative polarized 3d entity (or aspiring to) also uses the green ray? Also the blue?.

Those energy centers need to be balanced but balancing them seems different than using them. The use will depend on which polarization is being aspired to or achieved while in yellow ray activated body.

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Seems yellow ray activated body allows potential for the next one in line (green) for aspiration into activation in positives. But seemingly needs the cooperation of indigo since a negative polarized subject uses the indigo to ascert and empower red/orange/yellow.

Potentiation takes a new meaning here.

[3DMonkey]

Potentiation takes a new meaning here.

What would that be?

[zenmaster]

.....All 'centers' must be penetrated and balanced to some extent in order to 'graduate'.....[.....]

Are you saying that the negative polarized 3d entity (or aspiring to) also uses the green ray? Also the blue?.

Those energy centers need to be balanced but balancing them seems different than using them. The use will depend on which polarization is being aspired to or achieved while in yellow ray activated body.

Right, I was referring to STO harvest. Negative does not use green (compassion) or blue (honesty) from itself. With STS harvest, orange and yellow are just understood and used enough to compensate, in over-all use and balance, for lack of green and blue use and balance.

[Raman]

Potentiation takes a new meaning here.

What would that be?

'Potentiation states' seem different for rays below green and rays above green in a yellow activated body. Yellow ray activated bodies already went through red (always active) and orange bodies.

[Raman]

This game is getting on the side of stupidity. If continue like this why don't we just blow up planets everywhere and end creation once and for all..