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    Thread: Extraterrestrial Quarantine Has Been Lifted?


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    #31
    03-09-2013, 10:23 AM
    The reasons mentioned here is why I only turn to Ra and Bashar (in that order of preference, and Abraham in the old days) in terms of information.

    That doesn't mean these other repetitive channels are useless - far from it. If one person who is seeking finds themselves able to generate more love or balance within their lives from it, it's wholly worthy one. Serving one serves the all - Ra's own words.

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    06-14-2013, 05:20 PM
    I've often imagined how it would feel to have open contact. The idea and visualizing it is very exciting, I think I would be a little nervous and perhaps cry a bit.
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    06-14-2013, 10:58 PM
    Well, according to Bashar open contact is supposed to come within 40 years or so. Also, supposedly the rest of the planet will be aware of extraterrestrial life within the next 2-4 years.

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    06-15-2013, 12:18 AM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2013, 12:26 AM by Ashim.)
    (06-14-2013, 05:20 PM)Notalone Wrote: I've often imagined how it would feel to have open contact. The idea and visualizing it is very exciting, I think I would be a little nervous and perhaps cry a bit.

    If a larger sized craft was to appear in full view most people would be totally overwhelmed by the effect of feeling the combined merkabas of thousands of Galactics. They would literally freeze to the spot, s*** themselves and afterwards have no recollection of the event whatsoever.
    If people were to be relocated (to craft or other environments) in the case of a sudden evacuation then galactic crew members (dressed in orange uniforms) would use a device similar to the one in the MIB movies in order to cause a sort of amnesia. Flash!
    This helpes remove any trauma that may have occured during the event.
    The Federation laundry service would have to deal with the soiled clothing.

    (06-14-2013, 10:58 PM)Parsons Wrote: Well, according to Bashar open contact is supposed to come within 40 years or so. Also, supposedly the rest of the planet will be aware of extraterrestrial life within the next 2-4 years.

    Initial 'contact' will be with the 'ETs' that have been here for some time, those that came here through a womb.
    They have the most experience of 'people' and are best suited to introduce others to the Galactic Community.
    Their abilities will speak for themselves, leaving no doubt as to the teachings etc that they impart.

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    06-15-2013, 05:52 AM
    Orange is a nice color for a uniform. And I didn't know the Federation has it's own laundry service.
    I thought all people were ET's? These 'people' you speak of, is there any way to come in contact with them? Are they able to initiate the contact or will they have to wait untill the Federation decides to visit them?

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    06-15-2013, 05:58 AM
    (06-15-2013, 05:52 AM)Notalone Wrote: Orange is a nice color for a uniform. And I didn't know the Federation has it's own laundry service.
    I thought all people were ET's? These 'people' you speak of, is there any way to come in contact with them? Are they able to initiate the contact or will they have to wait untill the Federation decides to visit them?

    They will be the ones that answer your calls in dreams, initially.
    Many of the folks you converse with on this forum are ETs.
    Some have been here for many incarnations during a cycle, others just jumped in at the 'last minute'. The latter are usually the ones who wake up first and claim their respective missions.
    Bye the way, do you recall the dream you had last night?
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    06-15-2013, 06:01 AM
    Hmm, I remember only a snippet.

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    06-15-2013, 06:03 AM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2013, 06:19 AM by Crown.)
    I think 90% of the population on earth is not ready for open contact. What i do think however, is that people are ready for a governmental acknowledgement of contact. Something like the presidents of certain countries holding a press conference and announcing that there is or have been contact with extraterrestrials. But why would they do that? I don't think that a president is even aware of this information, and the army never hold random press conferences. What would be their motive to inform the public? I cannot find a logical one.

    I think that in the coming tens of years (10-50) full disclosure will happen. Many people will not even care, like people who are struggling to survive everyday in 3rd world countries.

    I think that ET civilizations don't come out in the open and reveal themselves without "our" confirmation is probably because they are highly intelligent and know that forcing themselves upon us could lead to mass fear and misunderstandings potentially harming out societal structure and economy. Many people will go crazy, commit suicide, buy everything or sell everything, etc... It is an act of de-stabalization simply because we are not ready yet. And those Hollywood movies depicting alien invasions aren't helping out either.

    I feel that we have the right to know. But i also know that they will not allow themselves to be our "saviors". They have to allow us develop on our own. It is an advanced way of thought that we also have when thinking about endangered species for an example even though in recent years our methods of preservation have been more and more intrusive but for understand-able reasons since our acts of deforestation and the likes are very aggressive.

    One thing that baffles me though, is why would an organization like NASA spend billions of dollars trying to prove that there is a sliver of a trace of water molecules on Mars. Why go this far when we have ET's at our doorstep performing open contact with the military forces and possibly sharing technologies? Maybe the information closure is really that strong that not even NASA knows about any of it.

    I would really like to know how they get here from far galaxies. I don't believe that they are born through a human womb or whatever this is just too x-files like. But the scene of a spaceship landing and ET's stepping out of it to saying "we come in peace" will probably never happen. I think that if anything at all, an ET can be introduced in a press conference by the president of the US or something like that.

    Anyway too much fear involved with the contact, and we are simply not ready.

    And @Ashim: none of the people on this forum are ET's.
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    06-15-2013, 06:48 AM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2013, 06:52 AM by Ashim.)
    (06-15-2013, 06:03 AM)Crown Wrote: I think 90% of the population on earth is not ready for open contact. What i do think however, is that people are ready for a governmental acknowledgement of contact. Something like the presidents of certain countries holding a press conference and announcing that there is or have been contact with extraterrestrials. But why would they do that? I don't think that a president is even aware of this information, and the army never hold random press conferences. What would be their motive to inform the public? I cannot find a logical one.

    I think that in the coming tens of years (10-50) full disclosure will happen. Many people will not even care, like people who are struggling to survive everyday in 3rd world countries.

    I think that ET civilizations don't come out in the open and reveal themselves without "our" confirmation is probably because they are highly intelligent and know that forcing themselves upon us could lead to mass fear and misunderstandings potentially harming out societal structure and economy. Many people will go crazy, commit suicide, buy everything or sell everything, etc... It is an act of de-stabalization simply because we are not ready yet. And those Hollywood movies depicting alien invasions aren't helping out either.

    I feel that we have the right to know. But i also know that they will not allow themselves to be our "saviors". They have to allow us develop on our own. It is an advanced way of thought that we also have when thinking about endangered species for an example even though in recent years our methods of preservation have been more and more intrusive but for understand-able reasons since our acts of deforestation and the likes are very aggressive.

    One thing that baffles me though, is why would an organization like NASA spend billions of dollars trying to prove that there is a sliver of a trace of water molecules on Mars. Why go this far when we have ET's at our doorstep performing open contact with the military forces and possibly sharing technologies? Maybe the information closure is really that strong that not even NASA knows about any of it.

    I would really like to know how they get here from far galaxies. I don't believe that they are born through a human womb or whatever this is just too x-files like. But the scene of a spaceship landing and ET's stepping out of it to saying "we come in peace" will probably never happen. I think that if anything at all, an ET can be introduced in a press conference by the president of the US or something like that.

    Anyway too much fear involved with the contact, and we are simply not ready.

    And @Ashim: none of the people on this forum are ET's.

    I had typed out a detailed reply to each one of your points Crown, only to have my computer go offline. Lost it all and have no desire now to re-write.
    I will say this however. It seems that what you claim to know and what I know differs greatly in almost every aspect.
    As I recall our last 'encounter' was a similar sort of interaction on my thread about teleportation. You did not seem so keen on that info either.
    As for "People going crazy, commiting suicide...etc", that's just pure fear mongering and perhaps wishful thinking on some folks behalf.

    No ETs on this forum?
    Not true. What makes you in complete disagreement with Ra on this subject? What is a wanderer then?

    Again, thanks for your comments and efforts as they are really appreciated.
    EDIT.
    OK "None of the PEOPLE on this forum....", well an ET would not describe itself as a 'person' or mask, so technically this is true, but there are entities here that are ET.

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    06-15-2013, 10:17 AM
    (06-15-2013, 06:48 AM)Ashim Wrote: I had typed out a detailed reply to each one of your points Crown, only to have my computer go offline. Lost it all and have no desire now to re-write.
    I will say this however. It seems that what you claim to know and what I know differs greatly in almost every aspect.
    As I recall our last 'encounter' was a similar sort of interaction on my thread about teleportation. You did not seem so keen on that info either.
    As for "People going crazy, commiting suicide...etc", that's just pure fear mongering and perhaps wishful thinking on some folks behalf.

    No ETs on this forum?
    Not true. What makes you in complete disagreement with Ra on this subject? What is a wanderer then?

    Again, thanks for your comments and efforts as they are really appreciated.
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    OK "None of the PEOPLE on this forum....", well an ET would not describe itself as a 'person' or mask, so technically this is true, but there are entities here that are ET.

    I'm sorry for your "loss" Tongue It happened to me too and it's annoying.

    This line: " It seems that what you claim to know and what I know differs greatly in almost every aspect."

    Bothers me. I have not claimed to know anything, you are the one making the crazy claims here. Besides, why do i "claim to know" and you simply "know". I think you lack a sense of humbleness or modesty. I am sorry but your ideas are fictitious at best in my opinion.

    How is this "As for "People going crazy, commiting suicide...etc", that's just pure fear mongering and perhaps wishful thinking on some folks behalf.
    " Wishful thinking? that's just being realistic. I am not saying that this is what people should do, i'm saying that this is what will most likely happen to certain people given the circumstances.

    And what i meant by "no Et's on this forum" is that there are no beings currently residing on earth who have traveled here from a distance and are sitting on a computer pretending to be human. If you are born on this planet you are not an ET. No matter if you think that your origin is of some distant planet or civilization. We are all human here.

    Yes, i have a problem with your claims. And i won't sit by pretending that it does not bother me. I try to be honest here and it seems right to me. You are the one who is constantly demonstrating wishful thinking. There is no basis to anything that you claim. I wouldn't have said that if your claims were of a personal nature. But since your claims have broad implications that might even confuse certain people, like you pretend to know what is the color of the suites that space travelers are... Seriously, you have no idea if this is true. It is a product of your imagination, and i respect that. But claiming to know the absolute truth does not convince anyone.

    Our past experience together where i ridiculed your claims on the teleportation thread were based on the fact that it was in the science and technology section of the forum and i could not stand someone spreading a bunch of lies to confuse people. Also, you post videos of a roller coaster ride and claim that it's a teleportation machine of some sorts... I'm sorry friend but this is ridiculous.

    No offense is intended but i cannot express my feelings in any other way since your claims are, in my opinion, really outrageous.

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    06-15-2013, 10:41 AM
    Ash, I was just in the shower thinking about the uniforms. Are you sure they're orange? Not blue?

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    06-15-2013, 10:52 AM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2013, 10:55 AM by Hototo.)
    (06-15-2013, 10:17 AM)Crown Wrote:
    (06-15-2013, 06:48 AM)Ashim Wrote: I had typed out a detailed reply to each one of your points Crown, only to have my computer go offline. Lost it all and have no desire now to re-write.
    I will say this however. It seems that what you claim to know and what I know differs greatly in almost every aspect.
    As I recall our last 'encounter' was a similar sort of interaction on my thread about teleportation. You did not seem so keen on that info either.
    As for "People going crazy, commiting suicide...etc", that's just pure fear mongering and perhaps wishful thinking on some folks behalf.

    No ETs on this forum?
    Not true. What makes you in complete disagreement with Ra on this subject? What is a wanderer then?

    Again, thanks for your comments and efforts as they are really appreciated.
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    OK "None of the PEOPLE on this forum....", well an ET would not describe itself as a 'person' or mask, so technically this is true, but there are entities here that are ET.

    I'm sorry for your "loss" Tongue It happened to me too and it's annoying.

    This line: " It seems that what you claim to know and what I know differs greatly in almost every aspect."

    Bothers me. I have not claimed to know anything, you are the one making the crazy claims here. Besides, why do i "claim to know" and you simply "know". I think you lack a sense of humbleness or modesty. I am sorry but your ideas are fictitious at best in my opinion.

    How is this "As for "People going crazy, commiting suicide...etc", that's just pure fear mongering and perhaps wishful thinking on some folks behalf.
    " Wishful thinking? that's just being realistic. I am not saying that this is what people should do, i'm saying that this is what will most likely happen to certain people given the circumstances.

    And what i meant by "no Et's on this forum" is that there are no beings currently residing on earth who have traveled here from a distance and are sitting on a computer pretending to be human. If you are born on this planet you are not an ET. No matter if you think that your origin is of some distant planet or civilization. We are all human here.

    Yes, i have a problem with your claims. And i won't sit by pretending that it does not bother me. I try to be honest here and it seems right to me. You are the one who is constantly demonstrating wishful thinking. There is no basis to anything that you claim. I wouldn't have said that if your claims were of a personal nature. But since your claims have broad implications that might even confuse certain people, like you pretend to know what is the color of the suites that space travelers are... Seriously, you have no idea if this is true. It is a product of your imagination, and i respect that. But claiming to know the absolute truth does not convince anyone.

    Our past experience together where i ridiculed your claims on the teleportation thread were based on the fact that it was in the science and technology section of the forum and i could not stand someone spreading a bunch of lies to confuse people. Also, you post videos of a roller coaster ride and claim that it's a teleportation machine of some sorts... I'm sorry friend but this is ridiculous.

    No offense is intended but i cannot express my feelings in any other way since your claims are, in my opinion, really outrageous.

    *nods at the both of you*

    You are both correct in your own way, but if you wish to define correction as manifesting more the truth of this already existing reality, then crown is more right. If you wish to define truth as understanding the underlying principle of how this reality is manifested and changed day to day. Then ashim is more right.

    Its a conundrum is what it is. =)

    Somehow, some spirit seemed to have told me some time ago that we should form, what he/she/they/it called a "social memory complexe"'s based on how we approach this conundrum of how reality is formed *nods nods*.

    So anyway. More to the point.

    In my most common visualization, bad guy uniforms are orange and good guy uniforms are blue or red.

    Edit3: Though more than having uniforms in and of themselves so much, they are about the colorations they wear since each is allowed an "individual uniform" and orange is in general slightly irritating on moving things due to... well... Me wanting always to eat orange things so its usually on "bad" things for me in dream visualizations and such. *shrugs*.

    Suppose its a human common mind trait this orange/blue opposite color thing so obvious in games and other media. Smile

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    06-15-2013, 11:38 AM
    Quote:This line: " It seems that what you claim to know and what I know differs greatly in almost every aspect."
    Bothers me. I have not claimed to know anything, you are the one making the crazy claims here. Besides, why do i "claim to know" and you simply "know". I think you lack a sense of humbleness or modesty. I am sorry but your ideas are fictitious at best in my opinion.

    I thought that line might bother you. I do choose my words with great care and gave these ones some extra thought.
    Put simply, this argument is reversable. I claim my own knowledge, it's based on personal experience. I know that it's difficult to prove but I can do no more than share stuff that I have seen or had intimite personal encounters with. From my standpoint you indeed 'claim to know' - this implies a certain scepcis on my behalf simply because this 'knowing' does not resonate with my 'knowing', thus the 'claim'. I did not mean to offend in any way as you probably 'know'. Suggesting that I lack humbleness or modesty is a little far fetched, although in the past I would have most certainly have been slightly upset by such a comment. I can assure you, I am as humble as they come, and I'm not selling a book or promoting workshops like some other self styled 'gurus'. It's just little old me sharing my opinion like all others on the forum.
    I am a being of infinite worth. This I truly believe, thus my willingness to share.


    Quote:How is this "As for "People going crazy, commiting suicide...etc", that's just pure fear mongering and perhaps wishful thinking on some folks behalf.
    " Wishful thinking? that's just being realistic. I am not saying that this is what people should do, i'm saying that this is what will most likely happen to certain people given the circumstances.

    How do you determine "what will most likely happen"?

    Quote:And what i meant by "no Et's on this forum" is that there are no beings currently residing on earth who have traveled here from a distance and are sitting on a computer pretending to be human. If you are born on this planet you are not an ET. No matter if you think that your origin is of some distant planet or civilization. We are all human here.

    You understood exactly what I was talking about.
    We may all be human but that is a common physical vessel in this Creation. I can assure you that my origin is not the planet we call earth, although I am also 'of the earth', in that I was born of earth parents etc. ET's that communicate with us such as in the CHANI Project have no Need to pretend that they are human. Why should they? It's the message that counts is it not?

    Quote:Yes, i have a problem with your claims. And i won't sit by pretending that it does not bother me. I try to be honest here and it seems right to me. You are the one who is constantly demonstrating wishful thinking. There is no basis to anything that you claim. I wouldn't have said that if your claims were of a personal nature. But since your claims have broad implications that might even confuse certain people, like you pretend to know what is the color of the suites that space travelers are... Seriously, you have no idea if this is true. It is a product of your imagination, and i respect that. But claiming to know the absolute truth does not convince anyone
    .

    Well you do seem to like the word 'claim'. Yes I claim these things that I write because they stem from personal experience, as I said.
    Experience and imagination are two different things. Imagination involves a notion of fantasy, experience is verified, at least subjectively. I can think of no better 'base' than telling you about things that happened to me during my life.
    I have never claimed to know absolute truth and anyone taking my words for such is subject to their own accountability.
    There are lot of people who contend that the Bible is absolute truth, so what I'm typing here is benign in comparison.
    You are right, maybe I should add a disclaimer to my posts like I did in the past.

    Quote:Our past experience together where i ridiculed your claims on the teleportation thread were based on the fact that it was in the science and technology section of the forum and i could not stand someone spreading a bunch of lies to confuse people. Also, you post videos of a roller coaster ride and claim that it's a teleportation machine of some sorts... I'm sorry friend but this is ridiculous.

    You attempted to ridicule my Claims about teleportation but that was all. Actually some of what you wrote was a little under the belt, especially the words "DEADLY RADIATION". Didn't really see what that had to do about my thread other than some sort of veiled threat.
    Well as you pointed it out the ride 'Space Mountain' along with the attraction 'Tower of Terror' are actually teleport technologies. You were obviously so keen to follow my "bunch of lies" that you picked up on that vid I added quite some time later.
    When you say 'ridiculous' it sounds like a weasel word.
    Why not just say that it is not true. I have indeed been ridiculed my entire life for various reasons but this has not deterred me one bit from continuing on the path that our Creator has set out for me to follow.


    Quote:No offense is intended but i cannot express my feelings in any other way since your claims are, in my opinion, really outrageous.

    No offence taken. In fact I can hardly imagine doing anything more fun on a saturday afternoon.
    Of course what I write is outrageous otherwise it would not set all your bells and whistles off.

    Crown, I enjoy your intelligent and well written posts very much and thank you again for your time.

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    06-15-2013, 12:15 PM
    Well to each his own. I still don't understand how you can say that a roller coaster ride is a teleportation machine though...

    Yes i took a break from these forums, and when i came back i checked a couple of threads that i was involved in. One of them was the one where we had our argument.

    The deadly radiation comment was just to emphasize the reality. i don't understand why you took that as a shot under the belt. If i can say that "i know" anything, well one of those things is the fact that light with a specific wave-length is deadly radiation. That i can hold as fact.

    I guess it is just my pragmatic nature, you see i work in a software company as a programer and i value science. However, spiritualism is very important to me.

    I just get the feeling from you that you think that because this forum is of a spiritual nature, that we are a bunch of idiots that can be subjects to charades of insane claims.

    And yes, saying that i "claim to know" and that you "know" is not humble at all. And how do i determine what will most likely happen? i use my analytical capabilities and rationalizations that my beloved mind provided me with. It is something i do on a daily basis. Might be odd to someone like you who operates on a hunch or a gut feeling all the time. Yes i do think that you lack the ability to discern between the product of the mind and actual physical experiences.

    My thoughts on channeling are also leaning towards the idea that all of that "information" is just a product of the mind rather than information being channeled through some sort of being. I believe that we are capable beings. I have also attempted that myself, and guess what? the first time i tried, i managed to "channel" endless stories of amazing nature about the history of our world. Yet i still believe that it is a product of the mind and not some sort of connection with higher beings.

    However, this does not ridicule the validity of such information especially if it is positive in nature as in, it does not promote harmful acts but quite the contrary.

    I respect that fact that you are so certain of specific things. I am not like that, i will keep asking and trying to prove everything wrong just so i can come up with a newer set of thoughts that might shed new light on things that might be considered as information.

    I also respect you for being able to debate over ideas or thoughts even if the other side might not agree with you possibly being portrayed as hostile towards you. Which i assure you that i am not.

    Thank you.

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    06-15-2013, 12:30 PM
    Quote:I have also attempted that myself, and guess what? the first time i tried, i managed to "channel" endless stories of amazing nature about the history of our world. Yet i still believe that it is a product of the mind and not some sort of connection with higher beings.

    I offer you an attempt to look at things as not black and white but gray. Often the ET's that are channeled have said that it is both, it is the ET making subtle connections and influences on the subconscious mind and personality of the self doing the channeling. They are unable to discuss specific scientific ideas, for example, without someone who has a proper background in the science that is being examined. They don't create something from nothing, it's a subtle blend. This is so that free will is not imposed upon and that the "belief" in such abilities is a personal decision and not a forced reality. My tiny little 3D vehicle offers the advice that maybe instead of focusing on what "isn't", you should spend more time focusing on what "is", even if the shade of gray is so subtle that it appears black to your mind complex.

    Much love.
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    (06-15-2013, 12:30 PM)Guenivere Wrote:
    Quote:I have also attempted that myself, and guess what? the first time i tried, i managed to "channel" endless stories of amazing nature about the history of our world. Yet i still believe that it is a product of the mind and not some sort of connection with higher beings.

    I offer you an attempt to look at things as not black and white but gray. Often the ET's that are channeled have said that it is both, it is the ET making subtle connections and influences on the subconscious mind and personality of the self doing the channeling. They are unable to discuss specific scientific ideas, for example, without someone who has a proper background in the science that is being examined. They don't create something from nothing, it's a subtle blend. This is so that free will is not imposed upon and that the "belief" in such abilities is a personal decision and not a forced reality. My tiny little 3D vehicle offers the advice that maybe instead of focusing on what "isn't", you should spend more time focusing on what "is", even if the shade of gray is so subtle that it appears black to your mind complex.

    Much love.


    I am leaning towards the idea of quantum non locality being applied to consciousness. This is why "channeling" is possible. All of the information is already out there, we simply need to "connect" to that mesh of thought, what would be usually referred to around here as the planetary memory complex or something along those lines. Sorry it's been a while since i last read the Ra material books and i kind of forgot the terminology.

    This idea is also bolstered (in my opinion) by the fact that most if not all of the information presented to us through channeling, has been already written down or discussed in our history by scientists, philosophers and prophets.

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    06-15-2013, 12:46 PM
    (06-15-2013, 12:30 PM)Guenivere Wrote: They are unable to discuss specific scientific ideas, for example, without someone who has a proper background in the science that is being examined.
    had to laugh at that, as if they were ever able to discuss *with* proper background. Remember, it's all irrational intuition - vague notional impressions, by its very nature. Science is largely rationally interpreted experience.
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    #48
    06-15-2013, 01:07 PM
    Touche. I almost added how intriguing it would be to at least see what say, a geneticist would channel, since DNA is basically a database of written history, and most of us know very, very little in that realm.

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    06-15-2013, 01:32 PM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2013, 01:41 PM by Ashim.)
    Quote:Yes i took a break from these forums, and when i came back i checked a couple of threads that i was involved in. One of them was the one where we had our argument.

    LOL! If you call me making a 1 or 2 line reply to your somewhat longer post on that thread an 'argument' then you should really meet my wife!

    Your comments are thought provoking as always Crown.
    I will take them to heart as I wish you godspeed and the best of fortune.

    (06-15-2013, 12:46 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (06-15-2013, 12:30 PM)Guenivere Wrote: They are unable to discuss specific scientific ideas, for example, without someone who has a proper background in the science that is being examined.
    had to laugh at that, as if they were ever able to discuss *with* proper background. Remember, it's all irrational intuition - vague notional impressions, by its very nature. Science is largely rationally interpreted experience.

    You use this type of argument repeatedly, this puzzles me.
    For the time being I will take my "irrational vague notional impressions" over another's "rationally interpreted experience".
    Rational means simply 'capable of reasoning'.

    I guess it's a matter of who one listens to and gives trust.

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    06-15-2013, 02:15 PM
    So, I still have some laundry to do. I suppose it's too much to ask.. you know. RollEyes

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    06-15-2013, 06:13 PM
    (06-15-2013, 01:32 PM)Ashim Wrote:
    (06-15-2013, 12:46 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (06-15-2013, 12:30 PM)Guenivere Wrote: They are unable to discuss specific scientific ideas, for example, without someone who has a proper background in the science that is being examined.
    had to laugh at that, as if they were ever able to discuss *with* proper background. Remember, it's all irrational intuition - vague notional impressions, by its very nature. Science is largely rationally interpreted experience.

    You use this type of argument repeatedly, this puzzles me.
    For the time being I will take my "irrational vague notional impressions" over another's "rationally interpreted experience".
    Rational means simply 'capable of reasoning'.

    I guess it's a matter of who one listens to and gives trust.
    Rational doesn't mean simply 'capable of reasoning'. It means evaluated experience. (as opposed to perceived experience).

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    #52
    06-15-2013, 06:38 PM
    (06-15-2013, 05:58 AM)Ashim Wrote:
    (06-15-2013, 05:52 AM)Notalone Wrote: Orange is a nice color for a uniform. And I didn't know the Federation has it's own laundry service.
    I thought all people were ET's? These 'people' you speak of, is there any way to come in contact with them? Are they able to initiate the contact or will they have to wait untill the Federation decides to visit them?

    They will be the ones that answer your calls in dreams, initially.
    Many of the folks you converse with on this forum are ETs.
    Some have been here for many incarnations during a cycle, others just jumped in at the 'last minute'. The latter are usually the ones who wake up first and claim their respective missions.
    Bye the way, do you recall the dream you had last night?

    Not to butt in, but I had to affirm that there are definitely ets that are willing to aid you in your dreams. Simply ask for guidance/wisdom during your dreams and it will be available. At one point I was instructed to lift my head and legs, and imagine a golden entity holding me as I drifted off to sleep.

    In addition, there are those that are willing to guide through technological interferenc.

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    #53
    06-15-2013, 09:55 PM
    (02-27-2013, 12:00 AM)Wander-Man Wrote:
    (02-26-2013, 09:51 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I don't know how I'd handle in-person contact with an ET. If they are higher density, it would be difficult to be in their presence, due to them knowing everything about you, and suddenly your emotional garbage would come to the surface to be dealt with. A higher density being tends to do that. Their field causes changes in your own. I might end up running away screaming, or collapse on the floor in tears.

    A more likely scenario would be them transferring the realization that you are whole and complete

    Just found this post. So true. I sometimes have doubted my own worth. I can't wait till I'm a higher density being. That way I'll be able to see more.

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    06-16-2013, 06:40 PM (This post was last modified: 06-16-2013, 06:41 PM by BlatzAdict.)
    i thought we were all ets i know my soul certainly isn't from this neck of the woods. hahahahahaha

    also have any of you tried c seti 5 protocols for calling ships for flybys?

    imagine where you are in your head and zoom out google maps style and send out that image in your intent

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    06-16-2013, 07:52 PM (This post was last modified: 06-16-2013, 07:53 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    I certainly feel like an ET soul, in that this doesn't feel like home to me. And yes, I feel like I would want to and possibly be ready to meet an ET of a positive nature. There is so much I could learn about myself and them.

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