11-22-2011, 11:09 PM
I have never heard that the moon was negative. Just saying that.
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11-22-2011, 11:09 PM
I have never heard that the moon was negative. Just saying that.
11-23-2011, 12:06 AM
(11-22-2011, 11:09 PM)Conifer16 Wrote: I have never heard that the moon was negative. Just saying that. Haven't you? It is traditionally well known. Hospitals and medical staff are well aware of the moon effect. The full moon is famous for accidents happening, from road accidents to domestic violence, etc. Also, the moon ('luna' in Latin) has given its name to 'lunatic' and 'lunacy' and is traditionally associated with insomnia and insanity as well as hidden magical power. Have you ever heard of stories of werewolf and full moon?... Those may be metaphors for something else. Hooo-ooo! (lol)
11-23-2011, 02:32 AM
Haven't you guys seen the third Transformers movie? The dark side of the moon is where Sentinal Prime crash landed. Gosh.
In any case, I had a weird moon moment a few weeks ago. At around 4:30am in the morning I awoke to find a full moon reflected in my mirrored wardrobe doors, illuminating my whole room brilliant silver. Amazed, I watched it set over the hills out the back of my house. The next night, the same thing happened again, only this time the moon was a golden orange, and I also had really bad stomach pains. This was weird because I sleep like a baby. You could set my bed on fire and it wouldn't even rouse me. I've also considered if I just happened to wake up on account of the light, but I don't think it could be so. I sleep with my blinds open, and I don't wake up until hours after the morning sun has risen - so I just don't think I'm that sensitive to the light. Has never happened before, hasn't happened since. *Shrugs*
11-23-2011, 02:40 AM
11-23-2011, 03:35 AM
I really haven't heard the negative side of things with regards to the moon. Only positive things. And I've never really though about the whole accidents happen on the full moon things either. And the werewolf thing I only have really thought about as a fantasy idea and something cool.
-Conifer16- Adonai Vasu Borragus
11-23-2011, 04:04 AM
The moon is the female principle, the reason why the moon was considered "negative" and dangerous is because the patriarchical societies were afraid of the female principle. So they worshipped the male as seen in the sun.
To say the moon is negative is to negate the feminine. One cannot exist without the other, we need both the male and the female. The moon reflects, the sun radiates.
11-23-2011, 04:14 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-11-2011, 08:50 AM by Whitefeather.)
(11-23-2011, 03:35 AM)Conifer16 Wrote: I really haven't heard the negative side of things with regards to the moon. Only positive things. And I've never really though about the whole accidents happen on the full moon things either. And the werewolf thing I only have really thought about as a fantasy idea and something cool. Cool is ok. The examples I mentioned are only that, a few examples amongst thousands ... better not to say more ... not when people are not ready yet. It would not make any sense would it? It is better to wait a couple of years. Anyway, I myself never think about it, I just know and, knowing is a kind of protection in itself. Knowledge and truth bring peace of mind. Pickle - here is the full quote Quote:8.3 Questioner: Are these craft that are from our peoples from what we call planes that are not incarnate at this time? Where are they based? The full session 8 is quite interesting: http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?ses...&ss=1&sc=1 :idea::idea:
11-23-2011, 05:29 AM
(11-23-2011, 04:04 AM)Meerie Wrote: The moon is the female principle, the reason why the moon was considered "negative" and dangerous is because the patriarchical societies were afraid of the female principle. So they worshipped the male as seen in the sun. Yes. In Pagan lore, the Moon represents the feminine principle, and all things magickal and mystical: the Dreamstate and so much more. I don't know if I can wrap my mind around the idea that the Moon is a cold, artificial, military base. There are indeed military bases on the Moon, according to Ra, but that doesn't negate the other aspects of the Moon. Just as the negative aspects of Earth don't negate the many positive. To me, the Moon is a Goddess. And I am a Moon worshiper!
11-23-2011, 05:34 AM
Just a note about Ra's quote on the moon; it's mentioned along with bases in our waters, on our lands and in our skies.
All are potentially destructive. But we don't go labelling the sky, the water, or the land itself a negative entity. It's man's own decisions in said bases.
11-23-2011, 07:18 AM
the negative moon is the yin. the positive sun is the yang. feminine and masculine. active and passive.
11-23-2011, 12:59 PM
I think I will just come at it from bashars point of view(danger extreme paraphrasing)
............. Ok when I rememeber what his point is I will come back and post it. I knew what I was going to say just 15 min. Ago but now I can't even start to rememeber what he said. Sorry. -Conifer16- Adonai Vasu Borragus
11-23-2011, 01:47 PM
HA HA
11-23-2011, 02:38 PM
(11-23-2011, 12:59 PM)Conifer16 Wrote: I think I will just come at it from bashars point of view(danger extreme paraphrasing) Hahaha! I'm very interested to hear Bashar's notions on the moon. Turn those cogs! :¬)
11-23-2011, 03:07 PM
(11-03-2010, 10:49 AM)ahktu Wrote: You noticed it, too? Lately it seems like there's a LOT of full moons, like every other time I look up the moon is full. I always think "huh, I didn't know it was time for the full moon" and never though much about it, but now that you mention it, the moon has seemed to be doing funky things lately. (Waves to the alien tourists camping out on the moon.) I'm also in agreement as to having seen an oddly frequent occurrence of full moons. Also not sure if this is relatively common or an anomaly as well, but there are times when I will see BOTH the Sun as well as the Moon out in the sky, both being very clear.
11-23-2011, 07:05 PM
11-23-2011, 09:35 PM
Oh, I didn't mean what he said about the moon(if he has said anything) I meant a view he has taken which I think makes a lot of sense. I think it was something like this(my own words)
(ok his words for now) everything is meaningless(my words now) what he means is that nothing has inherent meaning. Like for example the swastika, it was originally a symbol for peace but the. The nazis used it for "evil" but even though it was used for bad things that doesn't make it evil. Ok not as clear as I hoped. Lets try it again. I can choose how to view the swastika in any light I want as the symbol... The idea itself has no meaning in terms of "good" or "evil" only what I give to it. I know that bashar said specifically that no matter the thought put into anything.. No matter the meaning or intention given to it, the only energy, the only meaning something will have is what we give it. So the moon isn't a good or bad thing inherently. So I choose to see it as a good thing even if the intention of its creators was for it to be bad. And according to bashar that makes its energetic effect more "good". Now I know this wouldn't work for say someone trying to kill you, as no matter how you look at it you most likely won't find good meaning in it lol. But for something like the moon or a symbol, an abstract concept I think it works well. This isn't what I came up with this morning or what I came up with on the ride home from school, but what I have come up with now based on what I remember from the ride home.(literally ride(I rode home on a bike, and I do so often)) and I am sure I have forgotten something crucial to my explanation but I cant remember it right now. Hope this has made sense and If I can find the video where this concept is found I will share it Otherwise Bye -Conifer16- Adonai Vasu Borragus
11-24-2011, 06:47 AM
Ah yes, "the gift of experience is that it's meaningless - YOU get to decide the meaning". A very profound and simple statement, congruent with Ra and the explanation of catalyst.
Humans of STS origin are all over this planet, yet I still love the planet and all on it. The same applies to the moon, and indeed the Cosmos :¬)
11-24-2011, 03:55 PM
(11-23-2011, 05:34 AM)Namaste Wrote: Just a note about Ra's quote on the moon; it's mentioned along with bases in our waters, on our lands and in our skies. True and, I agree!
11-24-2011, 09:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-24-2011, 10:06 PM by Whitefeather.)
(11-23-2011, 05:29 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: In Pagan lore, the Moon represents the feminine principle, and all things magickal and mystical: the Dreamstate and so much more. Hold on your horses! What do you mean by a ‘goddess’? The moon is a guy … well … a god, at least according to most cultures on the planet. You are getting confused! (lol) In most cultures around the world, the moon is NOT a feminine concept but rather a masculine one. Look into the Scandinavian and Germanic mythologies. You'll find that the moon is represented by a masculine entity. In German: der Mond (the moon) is masculine while die Sonne (the sun) is feminine. Even in Eastern cultures, ancient as well as modern, the moon is also a male entity, the Moon God Sin. And it goes back to Sumerian mythology, Mesopotamian mythology, Assyrian, etc. The moon as a feminine force is not valid in many opinions' and experiences'; it seems like a rather modern fabricated concept and representation like the moon is trying to fit in and take over half the suffrage of the electorate. I am sorry for the disappointment! (lol) Edit: Another example is found in Norse (Icelandic) mythology where the moon (Mani) is male while the sun (Sol) is female.
11-24-2011, 10:23 PM
Well that's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, does not compute. LoL
I have grown up with nothing but exsposure to the moon as a feminine principle not masculine. And the sun as the masculin principle. To hear this is very odd and attempts to boggle my mind lol. Very interesting -Conifer16- Adonai Vasu Borragus
11-24-2011, 10:48 PM
In Spanish the moon is feminine: "La luna"; the sun is masculine "El sol".
11-24-2011, 10:52 PM
Or is it a round peg into a square hole?
11-24-2011, 11:18 PM
(11-24-2011, 10:23 PM)Conifer16 Wrote: Well that's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, does not compute. LoL I know, it must look startling and confusing at first but if you do some research you'll see... One thing that the English language does not have is articles to nouns therefore any gender can be switched... and, the concept of the Moon as a feminine entity is a rather recent one. In English there is no indication of gender by calling the Moon, 'the Moon'! &:idea:
11-24-2011, 11:19 PM
the female of the species
11-24-2011, 11:26 PM
11-25-2011, 12:07 PM
Depends on the culture one has as a reference. Sometimes is not only the grammatical gender but the baggage of literature, poetry, mythology, etc associated with the moon and the sun in particular.
As for Ra, they see this issue through a cultural background. Not a biggie. Quote:92.28 Questioner: Would the half moon on the crown represent the receptivity of the subconscious mind?
11-25-2011, 12:32 PM
(11-25-2011, 12:07 PM)apeiron Wrote: Depends on the culture one has as a reference. Sometimes is not only the grammatical gender but the baggage of literature, poetry, mythology, etc associated with the moon and the sun in particular. Great quote, and I agree, we assign our own symbols. There is no right or wrong.
11-25-2011, 08:21 PM
(11-25-2011, 12:32 PM)Namaste Wrote:(11-25-2011, 12:07 PM)apeiron Wrote: Depends on the culture one has as a reference. Sometimes is not only the grammatical gender but the baggage of literature, poetry, mythology, etc associated with the moon and the sun in particular. I agree that there is no right or wrong, we all know this as LofO students and more, which is that the moon carries different cultural meanings. The dominant cultural background of this forum as well as of the channel sessions, after all, are American and, in American culture, the Moon is seen as a feminine entity, I know that. My comment, in pointing out this issue, was to open the mind of others regarding the consideration that other cultures and perspectives may be equally valid and, that ignoring them would only bring more distortions. After all, it would only be a restrain to consider only the American culture on the issue of the moon. If opening cultural perspectives alone has been able to bring another point of view on the gender of the moon, then it is a good thing because there are implications and meanings behind the change of gender; implications which were made and can get unvalidated/annihilated by understanding the change. As Ra pointed out, "This symbol is not given by Ra" and "in your culture the moon represents the feminine... ". Ra then goes on describing this representation as "a portion of the image" ... Anyway, the reason why I introduced the knowledge of a different gender is in relation to the ‘why’ behind the change of gender. Actually the Moon started to be perceived as a feminine entity at a fairly later stage in human history, starting from the Greek times with Selene, followed by the Roman times with Luna. Selene is carrying a veil as a symbol for the sky as a canopy; this is an important point to remember as we are going to see more Moon ‘anomalies’ as well as celestial bodies ‘anomalies’ and even sky ‘anomalies’. Before Selene, the moon was a male entity in all cultures (as far as I know at the moment; it may change if I learn differently but it seems for now that it all congrues in that direction). Before this change and during many millenia, people were happy to see the Earth as the respondent feminine motherly entity going along with the Sun as the masculine fatherly figure. This representation still holds today in most cultures even in esoteric Christianity where Earth is represented as the Black Madonna or the Black Virgin. This very anciently rooted lore gave Christianity the Virgin Mary, which is confirmed by her blue robe, as per the heraldry code. In the heraldry code of colours, we know that black is represented by the colour blue in enamel. Anyway… today the couple Sun/Moon is trying to replace the previous couple Sun/Earth in people’s mind. I am asking you to ponder why it is so. As I mentioned in my above post where I say '...to take over half the suffrage of the electorate', I mean that it seems like the switch toward a 'newly' fabricated concept and representation of the moon as a feminine entity which is usurping Earth as the main feminine figure, has the purpose of wanting to get all women on Earth to identify with the Moon. It seems to be working! But just think about it. If Moon gets all the women on Earth to side with her by pretending to represent them, that is a lot of human beings and a great deal of mind power for the Moon. Put in the addition the fact that women are naturally psychic and, this gives even more power away to the Moon. The Moon is far more than a mere symbol. For the majority (with a few exceptions) still living in 3d, human beings are still powerless when confronted by 4d STS forces. They still require the constant aid, protection and invisible support given by our friends from the 4d STO realm. It is without prejudice that I would like to offer these few points to everyone's reflection for pondering. 3d being the place and moment of choice, I wish all a good path. Take care all. :idea: |
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