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    04-21-2015, 10:38 AM
    P.66

    You already have access to everything that can be known or experienced, because you are all that.
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    04-21-2015, 10:40 AM
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    If something weren't possible or in your potential, you couldn't imagine it.
    You cannot imagine something that doesn't exist.
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    04-21-2015, 12:26 PM
    (04-21-2015, 10:40 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: P.66

    If something weren't possible or in your potential, you couldn't imagine it.
    You cannot imagine something that doesn't exist.

    I am so sorry, but I so strongly disagree with this quote.  I'm sorry if I come on strong here but were this quote true, you'd incite the chicken/egg argument.  You can solve it with the quantum mechanics of manifestation inciting a non-start beginning to something (manifesting the egg or chicken first, doesn't matter except in context), but this implies the ability to imagine something from something not in existence, which this explicitly says is not possible.

    Nothing is STILL something, the possibility of nonexistence is already making it existent, formulating a paradox of being.  Being and Potentially Being are not that different, one Is, the other also Is, one is simply called forth, the other imagined and waiting.

    You can imagine infinitely anything as infinity is implied unity.  How can there be such a thing as an absence of creation to imagine, when that absence is in itself incapable of being understood?  If you want to label the concept, it's closest to the Void, that emptiness that spawned/became the Creator would either know all of itself in its infinity, or seek to understand it's whole self, that being (I imagine) where it came from.

    And since we speak of such concepts (in regards to Law of One material at least) as the Original Thought (which the Creator attempts to re-experience, and IS the Creator and ALL things), it might not be too absurd to consider that other Original Thoughts might coexist with ours.  Concepts could in essence be Existences, Micro meets Macro.  Our One Infinite Creation may belong besides many more. Our Infinite Creator could be One of Infinite many.

    I think it's more probable to say it's simply not possible to be incapable of imagining something.  Infinity is the limit.  When you move beyond it, you still have infinity.  It is the limit, beyond it is...Infinity AND Beyond!  Why try to discourage thought of the supposed unthinkable?  Man didn't sprout wings and fly, that wasn't possible apparently, so they found a different way and thought of something at the time thought unimaginable, Man Flying.

    The only thing unimaginable, is unimaginable, but because I can think of something unimaginable, it is no longer such.  If it does exist in such a way...It is still possible of being discovered.

    I just, I am so sorry, but every inch of me says this quote is potentially incorrect, even with the potential to be correct from all that we can surmise...  We can barely discern what is properly 'existent' and 'nonexistent' in context of concepts, not that different from how our medical professions have trouble discerning properly medical death at times due to the complications/complexities of Human Life and Consciousness.  This quote discourages so much potential to discover infinity for me, because suddenly we think we are incapable of thinking/imagining something because we believe it may just not be real or true or existent.

    ...Otherwise, I think I'll order this book.  Sounds like a gem to me, even if I so strongly disagree with this one quote!

    And if my explanation makes no sense to you, please ask.  I'll try to explain it better.  These things can be kind of hard describing...
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    04-21-2015, 12:55 PM (This post was last modified: 04-21-2015, 12:59 PM by isis.)
    VanAlioSaldo, you're saying everything's likely possible & that the quote implies otherwise?

    (04-21-2015, 12:26 PM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote: And since we speak of such concepts (in regards to Law of One material at least) as the Original Thought (which the Creator attempts to re-experience, and IS the Creator and ALL things), it might not be too absurd to consider that other Original Thoughts might coexist with ours.

    This confuses me. Ra says that all things are part of one original thought, right?

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    04-21-2015, 02:22 PM
    (04-21-2015, 12:55 PM)isis Wrote: VanAlioSaldo, you're saying everything's likely possible & that the quote implies otherwise?


    (04-21-2015, 12:26 PM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote: And since we speak of such concepts (in regards to Law of One material at least) as the Original Thought (which the Creator attempts to re-experience, and IS the Creator and ALL things), it might not be too absurd to consider that other Original Thoughts might coexist with ours.

    This confuses me. Ra says that all things are part of one original thought, right?

    What came before the Original Thought? That's where I'm trying to lead with what you quoted. It's one of the harder questions I asked myself. There's so many possibilities, or it all is a singular Original Thought, but I always wondered, if a vastness birthed this Thought, and it is in a sense timeless and spaceless then space and time are not real, but illusions. Where is all the space then? Is the distance between me and you real, or an illusion? By that standard if Time is also an illusion then everything there is is this One Original Thought encompassing all of Creation.

    A Thought, as Creation, everything is One, so what is the true nature of existence? I'm trying to look passed the Octaves and Densities towards...I don't know what to call it. The Essence of Existence? What IS the Original Thought, Unconditional Love? What birthed that thought? A vastness coalescing into awareness (along those lines I believe Ra mentioned) then what was the vastness? Ra says untouched creation by light is chaotic and unreflective, as Light flows in it brings order and makes that area reflective. Or, if I had more time I would peruse for the exact quote, I'm sorry about that

    If within the absence of Light chaos is unreflective, this supposes space and talks of Light, which means it comes after the Original Thought. This is specifically why I disagree with the quote. There was a non-start beginning, or a clear and concise start to our Creation. If it was at the birth of that Original Thought, what was before that made it possible?

    We're told a vastness of some sorts. What was the nature of that apparent paradoxical something/nothingness that makes my current joys of Space and Time plausible while retaining Simultaneity in that All things are happening simultaneously within an apparent infinite amount of space and time, from a placement where potentially space and time are not even real or plausible, but imagined concepts.

    I could throw a water filled glass ball into space (assuming it doesn't absolutely get destroyed). Is my existence, this Original Thought, like that glass ball? With it being the water wholly composed within its glass, or is it the glass ball, something whole located inside of another 'area'?

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    #38
    04-23-2015, 01:07 PM
    P.97

    Appreciation, when practiced not for the sake of getting something or manifesting something, but for the sake of love and enjoyment in the now, is the wand of the wizard.
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    04-23-2015, 03:25 PM
    Quote from Bashar.

    Quote:You are your You-niverse!

    So, you are saying, you are afraid of the unknown.

    Do you understand, that there is only one thing you can possibly ever discover in the unknown, and that is more of yourself?

    Mmh …

    You are your Youniverse! You-niverse! You are your Youniverse! You fill it completely. There is nothing else in it. The idea is that whatever appears to be in the Universe with you is your version! of that thing. Any other people you interact with, you don’t actually interact with them directly in that way. You create your version of them and populate your Universe with your version of them in order to agree to interact with that person. So, you’re creating that anyway. So, who is there in your own Universe to reject you but you? And what is there in your own Universe to discover but more of you? Nothing! So, you’re safe, you’re completely safe, because it’s all you. Do you understand?

    I do.

    Because you’re creating your version of everything you interact with in order to interact with it. In order to actually have an interactive experience you have to create a simulacrum, a representation of something to interact with out of your own energy, out of your own consciousness.

    That doesn’t mean the other person doesn’t exist. But what you’re interacting with is not them directly per se. You are interacting with your version of them, your perception of them, your creation of them. So, it’s still made out of you. So, all you discover is more of you in the unknown. So, all you’re doing is getting to know yourself. That is what exploring the unknown is. It’s getting to know Yourself. The bigger You. The bigger You is wonderful. I would highly suggest you get to know her. She can help you. There is nothing to be afraid of about her. Do you understand?

    I do, yes.

    Does this help you?

    Yes.
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    04-24-2015, 10:26 AM
    I was looking for a new book to read so I dove into this one, I have an excerpt to share:

    The Feedback Loop
    What you currently experience as reality could be viewed as a feedback loop of what you formerly
    believed. The more unaware you are, the more you label this feedback loop as the factual reality.
    One might consciously intend the reality, “I am rich.” This is created 100% on the timeline. If one’s
    surroundings and circumstances seem to provide counter-evidence to his decision, this is merely a
    feedback loop to old decisions. It is in how one reacts that determines if one is resting in one’s new
    viewpoint, or letting oneself be talked back into the old one. A bank account statement shows the
    account is overdrawn and he says, “Well, maybe I am not that rich, after all. Here’s the proof!” He
    is leaving his viewpoint and letting an outside circumstance dictate his being (rather than his being
    dictating outside circumstances). He has just fallen back into slave mentality. It is important to
    remain poised in the new viewpoint, no matter what outside evidence is showing you. The poorspirited
    will use any opportunity to fall back into the old identity. The reality surfer, wizard, or
    creator will use counter evidence to remind him of his new reality, as confirmation of his new
    reality. “Ah, here comes evidence corresponding to my old identity. This is a wonderful opportunity
    to confirm my new identity. Because this is happening, I can adjust my reaction to correspond to
    my new identity. How wonderful!” He uses the counter-evidence to deepen his new identity. Things
    are this way for the moment, but it is no longer the way you are. Another way to handle realities
    that seem to contradict your chosen reality is to witness them without reaction. This means not
    immersing yourself in it, not trying to be rid of it or negotiating with it. These things give the
    seeming counter-reality relevance. Instead, notice the apparent contradiction or counter-reality as
    you would notice clouds in the sky. They are there, but they have nothing to do with you. You rest
    in a new reality and refuse to assign importance to contradicting realities. The inner authority of
    imagination soon overrides the outer authority of facts, and thus turns imagination into facts.
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    04-24-2015, 11:02 AM
    Reaction and Creation
    World self believes the world to be the cause and itself to be the effect and thus always lives in a
    reactive mode. Sometimes it believes, sometimes it doesn’t, sometimes it feels good, sometimes it
    doesn’t, and all are dictated by circumstances, facts, and evidence.

    Notice the similarities between the words “reaction” and “creation.” In a sense, they are opposites.
    You are either reacting to the world or creating the world, but what you are really reacting to is
    what you created. Let’s say some woman harbors anger. By the law of correspondence, she will
    attract something about which she can be angry. Someone might call off an appointment, or she
    might burn a stain into a shirt while ironing it. She gets angry about that thinking that the call-off or
    the stain made her angry. Actually, she was already angry and now acts as if it’s the circumstances
    that made her angry. Although it may seem as if you are reacting to events, events come up
    because you have an inner correspondence to it. When you understand this, your reactions
    become a valuable tool for expansion of awareness, for further identifying with what you prefer.
    Your reaction to things reveals what you are creating. And it is in that moment that you can change
    what you are creating. The deepest changes can be made while an undesired event is happening.
    Unwanted events are a perfect opportunity for a reality shift across the board. One can look
    forward to such events. The question always is, “How do I want to react to this, next time it
    happens?” You might ask yourself, “Which version of me is reacting like this? Who sees it this
    way?” The more important question is how you actually want to react. What must someone believe
    who reacts with fear every time he looks at his balance at an ATM machine? Such a reaction
    reveals the creation of need. It is, therefore, at the ATM machine that a person can shift creation to
    something better. How do I want to react the next time I am standing at the ATM machine and see
    that my account is in the minus? How would someone who believes in his financial abundance
    react? The moment you shift your reaction towards the unwanted event to one more at ease, even
    joyful, reality changes. It’s no art to react joyfully to a full bank account. It is an act of wizardry to
    react joyfully to an empty bank account. By reacting in such a way, the same problem will never
    happen to you again. If you react as someone would react who believes in financial abundance,
    financial abundance will follow.

    I'm about 1/6th of the way through the book and it's pretty good so far. The main message is that once you align your vibrational being with the "you" you are desiring to be, you integrate that "other" you from the nearby timeline and pull that timeline in to yourself. The book goes into detail but it does try to emphasize the necessity that one must feel creation is happening with ease. We get so caught up in the idea of the noble struggle - it's so satisfactory to get what we desire after striving for it! But we are in 4D now so giving up 3D struggles is one of our next steps.
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    04-24-2015, 10:22 PM
    Thanks so much for sharing this Jade! I resonated deeply with it =)
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    04-25-2015, 10:07 AM
    P.129

    But infinity is not the stone cold, impersonal nature some shamans would have us believe; it is loving and positive.
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    04-25-2015, 11:51 AM
    He says that focusing for 3 minutes on something will attract it to you.

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    04-27-2015, 08:35 AM
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    04-27-2015, 09:31 AM
    (04-24-2015, 10:22 PM)Raz Wrote: Thanks so much for sharing this Jade! I resonated deeply with it =)

    You're welcome! I did too. I had a busy weekend but hopefully in the next couple days I'll be able to pick it up again and I'll remember to share more goodies. BigSmile
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    04-27-2015, 10:14 AM
    I don't know how you type so much from book Jade. I have trouble keeping it open with my elbows while I look around them to type the words. That's why my quotes are so short.

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    04-27-2015, 12:00 PM
    P. 154

    You write down big things and little things, realistic things and unrealistic things. Things you would like to be, do and have. There's one major rule: Let go of any expectation that these things must happen, or how or when or if they will happen. You are simply intending what would be nice, not what must happen. You don't go through the day demanding evidence. Many of the things will not happen, but they will raise your vibration while you write them down and think about them. Some will happen, mostly things you have written with a light and playful heart, without any pressure.
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    04-28-2015, 09:25 AM (This post was last modified: 04-28-2015, 09:26 AM by Jade. Edit Reason: fixed link )
    I'm reading a PDF version of the book, so I just copy and paste.

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/...kpvitMV2qk
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    04-28-2015, 09:32 AM
    Happiness is the Cause, not the Effect
    Wellbeing is not the goal; it is the starting point. This is yet another realization that could change
    everything dramatically. It might be a concept you’d like to remind yourself of every now and then.
    Your e-motions are energy-in-motion. And since everything in this universe is energy, too, your
    emotions interact with the whole universe. Your emotions are the language of your soul. They are
    the body’s translation of your energy state. They are the body’s translation of what your soul is
    telling you. They are the body’s translation of what you believe and are.

    The emotional frequency you put out or radiate is what you get back as real life experience. If
    there’s something that you want in life, be sure that’s what you are radiating. If you want more love,
    check if it is love of others and self that you are feeling. Everything you experience—your
    surroundings, the people you meet, the events that pop up, the places you go, the things that
    happen—are reflections of the emotional state you most often reside in. You notice that when you
    shift your frequency, other things start happening. By changing your vibratory state—your mood,
    your feeling—reality starts to reflect that feeling. If you want the out there to change before you feel
    better, it won’t work. Feel better before it happens. In other words, you can make more money
    relaxing in a Jacuzzi than in the rat race of the stock exchange.

    Everything you do is driven by emotions, by the desire to feel better or to avoid feeling bad. You
    believe that if you do this and that, you will feel better. But actually, it doesn’t make you feel better,
    but what you associate with experiencing it does. It’s okay and valid to have things you associate
    feeling better with, as long as you understand that the improved feeling does not come from the
    thing itself, but from your decision to feel better (and linking or associating it to some activity or
    thing). From the viewpoint of a reality-creation wizard or a parallel universe surfer there is nothing
    more important than your state of being. Compared to it, all other things are irrelevant. Feeling
    good is not the end, but the means, not the aim, but the requirement to reality creation. If, for
    example, you say, “If I work harder, I will make money, and then I can feel good,” you are placing
    conditions before happiness, before having energy. You’d be dependent on work and money for
    having a good state. Being needy will never create the money you want, though. You have to feel
    what you would feel if you already had plenty of money in order for it to flow effortlessly. The same
    principle applies to other issues. Another example: Are you saying, “I feel bad because I am
    overweight”? Well, this is putting the carriage before the horse. You are overweight because you
    feel bad. And another example: Are you using techniques of reality creation to feel better? Most
    people do. The amusing thing is that none of the techniques will work if you don’t feel better in the
    first place. Emotion is the cause, reality the effect. That is why it is necessary to put well-being first.
    A mirror won’t smile before you do. Demanding a mirror to smile first is what you are doing when
    you demand life to be better before you feel better. The journey you need to take first is emotional,
    not one of action. If you let circumstances dictate what you feel like, these circumstances won’t
    change. Don’t let other people or things—authorities, bank account statements, or the weather—
    dictate how you feel. Create your own feeling of well-being first, and good things will follow—
    almost automatically. When you’re in the flow, things happen naturally, effortlessly, easily—all of
    them to your benefit, reflecting the feeling you give off.
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    #52
    04-28-2015, 12:57 PM
    My mom just put on a movie about the Hubble Telescope and the Universe. Something I'm interested in, but it's totally unlike her. I think my reality shifting is going well.

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    04-28-2015, 01:00 PM (This post was last modified: 04-28-2015, 01:03 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    What I don't understand is how much we're supposed to focus on what we desire, and how much we let it go. Ra says to hold your thoughts on your desired programming. My focus of manifestation is pretty "out there". It's not money I desire, nor relationships, but to temporarily transform my body.

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    04-29-2015, 11:36 AM
    (04-28-2015, 12:57 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: My mom just put on a movie about the Hubble Telescope and the Universe. Something I'm interested in, but it's totally unlike her. I think my reality shifting is going well.

    My mom is now playing a video about mascots, which are like furry/anthro costumes. I think it's also something unlike her. Another confirmation about the reality I'm creating.

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    04-29-2015, 11:57 AM (This post was last modified: 04-29-2015, 12:12 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Well, she only played like 10 mins of it before she changed it.
    But the fact that the video exists. It might not have existed in one of my earlier realities.

    It's possible to shift to a reality where something is new, and didn't even exist before.

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    04-29-2015, 12:27 PM
    (04-28-2015, 01:00 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: What I don't understand is how much we're supposed to focus on what we desire, and how much we let it go. Ra says to hold your thoughts on your desired programming. My focus of manifestation is pretty "out there". It's not money I desire, nor relationships, but to temporarily transform my body.

    But is that needed? In truth you are formless and came here in this form only to partake on this sphere for a small amount of time.

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    04-29-2015, 12:29 PM
    (04-29-2015, 11:57 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Well, she only played like 10 mins of it before she changed it.
    But the fact that the video exists. It might not have existed in one of my earlier realities.

    It's possible to shift to a reality where something is new, and didn't even exist before.

    How do you perceive shifting realities? There's two different versions of you and they swap places?

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    04-29-2015, 12:30 PM
    (04-29-2015, 12:27 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (04-28-2015, 01:00 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: What I don't understand is how much we're supposed to focus on what we desire, and how much we let it go. Ra says to hold your thoughts on your desired programming. My focus of manifestation is pretty "out there". It's not money I desire, nor relationships, but to temporarily transform my body.

    But is that needed? In truth you are formless and came here in this form only to partake on this sphere for a small amount of time.

    In no other realm is it possible with such limitation to have the experience of transforming.
    In other realms we transform with ease.
    but in this realm with such limitation, such transformation would be miraculous.
    Indeed an experience worthy of Creator.

    I would get more out of transforming when it's highly unlikely than I would where it's super easy to do.

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    04-29-2015, 12:37 PM (This post was last modified: 04-29-2015, 12:39 PM by Minyatur.)
    (04-29-2015, 12:30 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:
    (04-29-2015, 12:27 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (04-28-2015, 01:00 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: What I don't understand is how much we're supposed to focus on what we desire, and how much we let it go. Ra says to hold your thoughts on your desired programming. My focus of manifestation is pretty "out there". It's not money I desire, nor relationships, but to temporarily transform my body.

    But is that needed? In truth you are formless and came here in this form only to partake on this sphere for a small amount of time.

    In no other realm is it possible with such limitation to have the experience of transforming.
    In other realms we transform with ease.
    but in this realm with such limitation, such transformation would be miraculous.
    Indeed an experience worthy of Creator.

    I would get more out of transforming when it's highly unlikely than I would where it's super easy to do.

    What purpose do you seek from it? Purpose is the key to whether or not you will achieve something of the sort.

    As you said it would be miraculous but remember that in this realm miracles are rare because they are not needed.

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    04-29-2015, 12:39 PM
    (04-29-2015, 12:37 PM)Minyatur Wrote: What purpose do you seek from it? Purpose is the key to whether or not you will achieve something of the sort.

    As you said it would be miraculous but remember that in this realm miracles are rare because they are not needed.

    A new life.

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