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    (10-07-2012, 02:16 PM)Icaro Wrote: Enlightenment seems to have the potential to subtly cause separation. We have the answers, we know what's going on, and if others could just see and align with us that would be best for them. Of course it may not be like that overtly, but if you watch your thoughts it's there. Isn't the point of free will to let others be?
    However, that is merely the mindset of one in the initial stages of awakening. In Spiral Dynamics, it's still the so-called "first-tier" which is still associated with survival concerns and only just starting to polarize.

    http://rationalspirituality.com/articles...namics.htm Wrote:All of that begins to change with second-tier thinking. Because second-tier consciousness is fully aware of the interior stages of development--even if it cannot articulate them in a technical fashion--it steps back and grasps the big picture, and thus second-tier thinking appreciates the necessary role that all of the various memes play . Second-tier awareness thinks in terms of the overall spiral of existence, and not merely in the terms of any one level.

    Where the green meme begins to grasp the numerous different systems and pluralistic contexts that exist in different cultures (which is why it is indeed the sensitive self, i.e., sensitive to the marginalization of others), second-tier thinking goes one step further. It looks for the rich contexts that link and join these pluralistic systems, and thus it takes these separate systems and begins to embrace, include, and integrate them into holistic spirals and integral meshworks. Second-tier thinking, in other words, is instrumental in moving from relativism to holism, or from pluralism to integralism .

    (10-07-2012, 02:16 PM)Icaro Wrote: I've stopped identifying as a wanderer. The whole concept makes sense, but I just don't know or can't know. It would seem more helpful and congruent with the idea of oneness to identify as being from earth, rather than coming from above. Maybe I'm a wanderer and maybe not..I think it's best left as an unknown.
    Consider the infinite universe and the thousands of planets from which life evolved near earth. In that context of logos, you might as well be "from earth".

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    If you could go back in time... - by Tenet Nosce - 10-06-2012, 12:37 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by AnthroHeart - 10-06-2012, 12:46 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by Spaced - 10-06-2012, 12:50 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by Unbound - 10-06-2012, 12:51 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by βαθμιαίος - 10-06-2012, 07:59 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by native - 10-06-2012, 09:07 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by BlatzAdict - 10-07-2012, 11:22 AM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by Tenet Nosce - 10-07-2012, 01:15 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by Shin'Ar - 10-08-2012, 07:34 AM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by native - 10-07-2012, 02:16 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by zenmaster - 10-07-2012, 06:09 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by AnthroHeart - 10-07-2012, 02:49 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by Cyan - 10-07-2012, 04:17 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by native - 10-07-2012, 09:50 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by zenmaster - 10-07-2012, 10:30 PM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by Cyan - 10-08-2012, 12:26 AM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by native - 10-08-2012, 12:18 AM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by native - 10-08-2012, 12:34 AM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by reeay - 10-08-2012, 12:44 AM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by xise - 10-08-2012, 05:34 AM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by Oldern - 10-08-2012, 06:15 AM
    RE: If you could go back in time... - by Tenet Nosce - 10-08-2012, 01:33 PM
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