09-09-2012, 06:55 AM
I would like to address this in more detail later, but right now I am trying to go through Azrael's post ion another thread.
It is too bad that your artistic talent is not as great as your musical talent. What a sight we could behold if that were so. the great painters of history have managed to produce some astounding works of inspiration. Could you imagine what DaVinci might have been able to reveal to us if he had your experience and could put it to canvas?
I do like this though GWV.
If you place your self there and consider the possibilities, it does make you feel a sense of being more than we think we are.
I would like to add a couple of thoughts here for others to consider as well.
Let us think about sight for a minute.
Humans have eyes to see that are controlled by their brain. This is a physical requirement based upon our physical design, and it seems to be a constant throughout most 2d and 3d animal life forms. Even those which use sensory perception that do not even really use their eyes still have them.
Now, shall we suppose that the Source would have the need for physical eyes?
I am not saying it is impossible, I am just applying consideration here.
If it does have eyeballs, does it also have a brain which controls the sight process?
That aside let's consider how it is natural for the human to attempt to relate to God as human-like, and how often that tendency seeps into our efforts to comprehend it. This tendency creates a great problem in that it causes us to place great emphasis on human form, whereby we identify with it in ways that may keep us from wanting to let go, or that cause us to want to continue to identify our self with human form. As is depicted here.
GWV, in your experience, can you elaborate on the actual ability to see in that state of being. Obviously, as aware being, one would see its environment. But is that type of sight actually similar to seeing through human eyes, or could it be more of a extrasensory perception?
Secondly, I would like to have us consider what you mean by simultaneity because there are many discussions about this which are in debate.
Siren and Azreal would have us think that all of creation is finished, and that beginning and end and every point in between are a simultaneous event occurring in this very second, ooops in that last second, wait now,,,,well you get my drift.
I, on the other hand, understand that creation is a continuing event in which future has not yet taken place.
In my speculation infinity has no beginning and no end.
In their speculation infinity is finished right now, I mean, right now, no wait,,,,right now, damn missed it again.
Can you attempt to address your meaning when you speak to this simultaneity?
I understand the concept that in some point of existence, all that exists is being realized by One Consciousness. And that all that exists is The One Consciousness experiencing in present time. That could be described as a simultaneity. All is experienced now by The One.
BUT, when you take that the step further to suggest that all that can possibly be, has already been experienced, in order to lend credence to higher being having some relation to our future, than that is a very different consideration altogether.
Finally just a quick note about what may be in the pic. Is that flame at the top and a pentagram at the bottom, and if you did deliberate to do that what is your intention there for those?
It is too bad that your artistic talent is not as great as your musical talent. What a sight we could behold if that were so. the great painters of history have managed to produce some astounding works of inspiration. Could you imagine what DaVinci might have been able to reveal to us if he had your experience and could put it to canvas?
I do like this though GWV.
If you place your self there and consider the possibilities, it does make you feel a sense of being more than we think we are.
I would like to add a couple of thoughts here for others to consider as well.
Let us think about sight for a minute.
Humans have eyes to see that are controlled by their brain. This is a physical requirement based upon our physical design, and it seems to be a constant throughout most 2d and 3d animal life forms. Even those which use sensory perception that do not even really use their eyes still have them.
Now, shall we suppose that the Source would have the need for physical eyes?
I am not saying it is impossible, I am just applying consideration here.
If it does have eyeballs, does it also have a brain which controls the sight process?
That aside let's consider how it is natural for the human to attempt to relate to God as human-like, and how often that tendency seeps into our efforts to comprehend it. This tendency creates a great problem in that it causes us to place great emphasis on human form, whereby we identify with it in ways that may keep us from wanting to let go, or that cause us to want to continue to identify our self with human form. As is depicted here.
GWV, in your experience, can you elaborate on the actual ability to see in that state of being. Obviously, as aware being, one would see its environment. But is that type of sight actually similar to seeing through human eyes, or could it be more of a extrasensory perception?
Secondly, I would like to have us consider what you mean by simultaneity because there are many discussions about this which are in debate.
Siren and Azreal would have us think that all of creation is finished, and that beginning and end and every point in between are a simultaneous event occurring in this very second, ooops in that last second, wait now,,,,well you get my drift.
I, on the other hand, understand that creation is a continuing event in which future has not yet taken place.
In my speculation infinity has no beginning and no end.
In their speculation infinity is finished right now, I mean, right now, no wait,,,,right now, damn missed it again.
Can you attempt to address your meaning when you speak to this simultaneity?
I understand the concept that in some point of existence, all that exists is being realized by One Consciousness. And that all that exists is The One Consciousness experiencing in present time. That could be described as a simultaneity. All is experienced now by The One.
BUT, when you take that the step further to suggest that all that can possibly be, has already been experienced, in order to lend credence to higher being having some relation to our future, than that is a very different consideration altogether.
Finally just a quick note about what may be in the pic. Is that flame at the top and a pentagram at the bottom, and if you did deliberate to do that what is your intention there for those?