01-21-2010, 02:02 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-21-2010, 02:06 PM by Questioner.)
Right from the first message, I have mixed feelings about this thread on ATS.
I liked the disclaimer that discernment is needed, including for the poster's own message.
I disliked the idea that physical senses and the mind are useless in discernment. As we've often discussed here, feelings and ideas can be very important tools of discernment.
The original poster claims expertise through study and meditation. The meditation is a personal experience that can't be replicated by others with any guaranteed results. No sources are cited to help others do their own study. Jargon like "third density" is thrown around without any attempt at explanation, mixed in with beginner-level material. I agree that if only one concept of the Law of One were to be successfully shared, understanding the difference between STS vs. STO may be the most valuable distinction for most people. That understanding can immediately be used to transform relationships, reduce abuses, and appreciate each moment in life, starting immediately. Once that polarity is understood, the idea that polarity also leads to harvestability is then easier to explain.
Therefore, the effect of the message is that the average schlub, who can't figure things out with their senses and mind, has to become dependent on the poster. At least is better than becoming dependent on the ruling elite. That seems to me to be a hidden implication contrary to the material we study here, which presents any type of dependency as a potential STS distortion.
"it is important to open up as many entities as possible to the One Truth." This is wording that implies a position of power rather than helping. One uses a wrench to open up an engine. One lovingly adds water and exposure to sunshine to help a flower open itself up. Which is the better metaphor for a person? I would prefer to say that's it is important to help nurture, support, and co-discover reality with entities that are opening themselves to the truth.
I also see an application for my recent "slide show" about reality and truth. The Law of One says that in reality, there is One Creator. But we are each only able to perceive a portion of that reality. This portion is our truth and if it's accurate, it doesn't conflict with anyone else's truth. But their truths and ours might be more comprehensive in different areas of reality, meaning there is not One Truth.
My definitions here might be idiosyncratic, but I think it's a big tip-off that the poster referred to factual knowledge about One Truth, rather than a deeper personal loving relationship with the One Creator, as what should be most sought. This dependency through hidden information is the entry point to control and manipulation of cult leaders.
Finally, the "knowledge protects because it tells you how to evade the negative domineering forces" theme comes straight from some channeled sources from Florida and France. Because it's a different channel, we can't discuss in more detail here because of the rules of this forum. But there seems to be a consensus here that this other channeling has a mixed positive and negative message that tends to increase fear and to focus on power seized through hidden knowledge, rather than opening to love for all in each moment and sharing knowledge lovingly with all who ask. The ATS poster seems to me to be headed in what I perceive as a downhill direction.
Skimming the first few messages of the discussion are just what I expected: those who already know the material talk around it, and those who don't know it already are baffled. Positions are dug in and defensiveness ensues. There is always an opportunity for the light to shine through with graciousness. I suspect that in that other thread, there might not be many people who use that opportunity.
I think my own spiritual evolution is better served by focusing on this forum, and some other sources that seem much more positive in my own life. If the ATS material is a blessing to you, please don't let my own hesitations keep you from whatever nurtures your own life. However, I'll sit this one out.
ATS often reminds me of something brilliantly put by the comic XKCD:
![[Image: duty_calls.png]](http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)
I liked the disclaimer that discernment is needed, including for the poster's own message.
I disliked the idea that physical senses and the mind are useless in discernment. As we've often discussed here, feelings and ideas can be very important tools of discernment.
The original poster claims expertise through study and meditation. The meditation is a personal experience that can't be replicated by others with any guaranteed results. No sources are cited to help others do their own study. Jargon like "third density" is thrown around without any attempt at explanation, mixed in with beginner-level material. I agree that if only one concept of the Law of One were to be successfully shared, understanding the difference between STS vs. STO may be the most valuable distinction for most people. That understanding can immediately be used to transform relationships, reduce abuses, and appreciate each moment in life, starting immediately. Once that polarity is understood, the idea that polarity also leads to harvestability is then easier to explain.
Therefore, the effect of the message is that the average schlub, who can't figure things out with their senses and mind, has to become dependent on the poster. At least is better than becoming dependent on the ruling elite. That seems to me to be a hidden implication contrary to the material we study here, which presents any type of dependency as a potential STS distortion.
"it is important to open up as many entities as possible to the One Truth." This is wording that implies a position of power rather than helping. One uses a wrench to open up an engine. One lovingly adds water and exposure to sunshine to help a flower open itself up. Which is the better metaphor for a person? I would prefer to say that's it is important to help nurture, support, and co-discover reality with entities that are opening themselves to the truth.
I also see an application for my recent "slide show" about reality and truth. The Law of One says that in reality, there is One Creator. But we are each only able to perceive a portion of that reality. This portion is our truth and if it's accurate, it doesn't conflict with anyone else's truth. But their truths and ours might be more comprehensive in different areas of reality, meaning there is not One Truth.
My definitions here might be idiosyncratic, but I think it's a big tip-off that the poster referred to factual knowledge about One Truth, rather than a deeper personal loving relationship with the One Creator, as what should be most sought. This dependency through hidden information is the entry point to control and manipulation of cult leaders.
Finally, the "knowledge protects because it tells you how to evade the negative domineering forces" theme comes straight from some channeled sources from Florida and France. Because it's a different channel, we can't discuss in more detail here because of the rules of this forum. But there seems to be a consensus here that this other channeling has a mixed positive and negative message that tends to increase fear and to focus on power seized through hidden knowledge, rather than opening to love for all in each moment and sharing knowledge lovingly with all who ask. The ATS poster seems to me to be headed in what I perceive as a downhill direction.
Skimming the first few messages of the discussion are just what I expected: those who already know the material talk around it, and those who don't know it already are baffled. Positions are dug in and defensiveness ensues. There is always an opportunity for the light to shine through with graciousness. I suspect that in that other thread, there might not be many people who use that opportunity.
I think my own spiritual evolution is better served by focusing on this forum, and some other sources that seem much more positive in my own life. If the ATS material is a blessing to you, please don't let my own hesitations keep you from whatever nurtures your own life. However, I'll sit this one out.
ATS often reminds me of something brilliantly put by the comic XKCD: