01-18-2010, 11:57 PM
Blargg, all sessions that make their way into a digital audio format will have come from channeled 'messages' which have already been made freely available to the public in written form. So why are we going in circles?
It sounds like you have a concern with digital audio not being made available by L/L for free. The nominal amount of funds being requested for each session is to cover the cost of keeping the lights on for the organization, and to continue subsidizing the expense of llresearch.org and bring4th.org, which are in a constant state of growth! As you might imagine, the busier a web site becomes, the more money is required to run that site--especially when you begin hosting audio files. So does it not seem fair that even though the written word is freely available to the public, that L/L is trying to generate operating income so it can have a place to host the terabytes of audio that will soon need a place to live?
My impression is that you feel the "highest word" should never be charged for, and I couldn't agree more with you! But it's already free in written form, so the highest word remains free. That can't be argued any longer.
You also seem to feel that those involved with L/L are being compensated in some shape or form for being bearers of digital audio files containing the original messages. Carla or Jim do not get paid to run the organization. Any funds that come in go directly towards operating costs, which are many! Their main concern is keeping the lights on at L/L by counting on donations and publication revenue to continue being able to provide the Confederation material to the masses.
If you can find a way to do all of this for free so that we don't need to ask for donations, then we will be *more* than happy to listen to any ideas! And as much as we love the idea of finding a service to host one audio file at a time, that is not a practical solution for the organization. We have terabytes of data that need a home and we will soon need gigabytes of monthly transfer bandwidth to handle everyone's download requests. Can you recommend some ideas of how we can pay for that massive bandwidth and storage demand without asking for a couple dollars to cover our costs, Blargg?
And as Monica mentioned, while fruit continues to grow on trees for free, we all still have to pay for the fruit because people are involved in the process of harvesting it, cleaning it, transporting it, stocking it in a store, and maintaining it for the public to purchase. Our process is very much the same here, except there's no profit! Any funds received are specifically appointed to cover the process of getting the audio into a form that can be made available to everyone.
Again, I totally respect your feelings for getting the truth for free, and I am 100% behind that idea as well. But please, if you're going to argue, please be realistic by considering what goes into the process of hosting large audio files, and that the price for each file is strictly to cover the process of publication and its ongoing availability.
Cheers,
Steve
It sounds like you have a concern with digital audio not being made available by L/L for free. The nominal amount of funds being requested for each session is to cover the cost of keeping the lights on for the organization, and to continue subsidizing the expense of llresearch.org and bring4th.org, which are in a constant state of growth! As you might imagine, the busier a web site becomes, the more money is required to run that site--especially when you begin hosting audio files. So does it not seem fair that even though the written word is freely available to the public, that L/L is trying to generate operating income so it can have a place to host the terabytes of audio that will soon need a place to live?
My impression is that you feel the "highest word" should never be charged for, and I couldn't agree more with you! But it's already free in written form, so the highest word remains free. That can't be argued any longer.
You also seem to feel that those involved with L/L are being compensated in some shape or form for being bearers of digital audio files containing the original messages. Carla or Jim do not get paid to run the organization. Any funds that come in go directly towards operating costs, which are many! Their main concern is keeping the lights on at L/L by counting on donations and publication revenue to continue being able to provide the Confederation material to the masses.
If you can find a way to do all of this for free so that we don't need to ask for donations, then we will be *more* than happy to listen to any ideas! And as much as we love the idea of finding a service to host one audio file at a time, that is not a practical solution for the organization. We have terabytes of data that need a home and we will soon need gigabytes of monthly transfer bandwidth to handle everyone's download requests. Can you recommend some ideas of how we can pay for that massive bandwidth and storage demand without asking for a couple dollars to cover our costs, Blargg?
And as Monica mentioned, while fruit continues to grow on trees for free, we all still have to pay for the fruit because people are involved in the process of harvesting it, cleaning it, transporting it, stocking it in a store, and maintaining it for the public to purchase. Our process is very much the same here, except there's no profit! Any funds received are specifically appointed to cover the process of getting the audio into a form that can be made available to everyone.
Again, I totally respect your feelings for getting the truth for free, and I am 100% behind that idea as well. But please, if you're going to argue, please be realistic by considering what goes into the process of hosting large audio files, and that the price for each file is strictly to cover the process of publication and its ongoing availability.
Cheers,
Steve
(01-18-2010, 11:01 PM)blargg Wrote: i suggest that perhaps they only need to host one session a week, for a week. the original audio. i believe there are hosts that offer this amount of storage space free of charge. if the allowed bandwidth is exceeded before the week is out, then excellent. you want as many as possible to have the seed, to pass this raw channeling along to even more who might care to hear it.