08-12-2012, 12:25 AM
(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: I once knew a fruitarian that got stomach cancer. Go figure.
What kind of water did s/he drink?

The wife of one of the raw vegan gurus died of colon cancer a few years ago. The guru said she had been abused as a child and had come a long way but...apparently still had issues.
Diet isn't a guarantee. Especially in light of what we know from Ra about anger and cancer. And that was just an example. Might there be other negative emotions that manifest as cancer too?
(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Ya, that's true. But generally speaking, determining the concentration of nutrients per calorie is pretty straightforward. Could be a place to start.
I'd say assimilation is more important. A food could be very nutrient-dense, but if the person isn't able to assimilate it (for whatever reason) then it's worse than worthless: might actually be detrimental.
(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Interesting. I've always wondered that about many herbal tinctures- especially those which are supposed to work on the digestive tract. Seems like it would be absorbed before it even hits the stomach.
Very likely true, though perhaps for a different reason.
(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:Quote:I can send a link to a short video of him explaining this, to anyone who's interested. Just send me a pm.
Thanks!
You are quite welcome. I can arrange for you to talk to him, by the way, if you are ever interested. (if so, pm me) He's very generous with his time and knowledge.
(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Apparently, gorillas do!
Haha, exactly! And it seems to have paid off! They are rather strong! No one would ask a gorilla whether they get enough protein!

(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:Quote:Better than to poop a lot than too little!
LOL! True enough.
So nice to agree!

(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Just like humans!!
Exactly! Humans are sort of in captivity, with the veil and all. Makes sense.
I read some vegetarian Christian stuff once that made a grand case for humans eating meat "after the fall" and 'God frowning upon them when they rejected manna in the desert and lusted after flesh instead.'
I don't care for the Bible much but I thought it was rather interesting, that they were able to build their case biblically.
(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:Quote:Well if you get the right stuff in, the body will automatically get the wrong stuff out.
YESSSSS! And as a convenient side-note you get to avoid all the difficulties associated with trying to change behavior based on a negative.
Huh? sorry, don't follow you. Elaborate please? By "negative" do you mean "don't eat xyz food" ?
(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: While I was in clinical training, we had an obese diabetic patient who was not progressing at all. Turns out she neglected to mention she was eating a half gallon of ice cream a day!
Yikes!!!
Oh, and I forgot to mention, this person who was drinking tea...she also forgot to mention that she smoked!!!
I was about to go get my machine back, but then it was revealed that she 'only' smoked 'natural' cigs - the 'organic' ones. Hmmm...that does explain why I didn't get a headache when I was in her house, though I did smell smoke residue. (I normally get a raging headache after being exposed to cigarette smoke...some smokers reek so strongly I'll get a headache just being around them even if they don't smoke around me.)
So I'm not quite sure...are 'organic' cigs toxic too?
I normally won't even give water to a smoker, because they are soooo toxic it's asking too much to expect the water to do them any good. I made an exception in this case because the cigs were 'organic' but it remains to be seen...
(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Oh ya! Check zinc out- it does so many essential things! Here is a resource to get started.
Thanks! But what I really mean is, why is zinc likely to be missing in a veg diet?
(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: The folks at the Mediterranean store down the street keep thinking we are Arabic because of all the tahini we buy!
LOL!
Did you know they have a raw tahini? It's not as creamy and has a stronger flavor. I try to do raw as much as possible, but I haven't decided yet on this...
(08-11-2012, 07:07 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: True. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I just can't figure out how somebody can be so passionate about something, yet not see the value in making the time and effort to educate themselves and get the facts straight.
I agree with you there! As strongly as I feel about protecting the animals, I wasn't willing to jeopardize my child's health over it. So I chose to 'err on the side of caution' when raising a vegetarian child. I did my due diligence! I agree totally that it's irresponsible to go off half-cocked on any diet, especially where children are concerned!
(But then, most people don't pay much attention to diet anyway...so raising a child vegan without adequate B12 is probably the equivalent to raising a child on McDonald's and sodas...it's a tossup really!)