07-15-2012, 02:48 PM
(07-15-2012, 01:17 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(07-15-2012, 11:34 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Extremity is not balance, nor harmony, and results in further extremity.
Let's test this. First, let's ask the question: What is extremity?
Is human slavery extremity?
Is starvation extremity? How about war? Is that extremity?
How was the 'extremity' of human slavery 'balanced?' By sitting back and doing nothing? Or were there human activists who helped those black people find freedom and liberation? Were their actions 'extremist'?
How about this? Would you said it's extremity?
http://earthlings.com/
Please do watch the whole trailer before deciding on an answer.
Extremity alone isn't balanced. However, extremity may need an equal amount of opposing energy to balance it. As in math, -100 + +100 = 0 (balance). The greater the negative, the greater the positive is needed. +100 won't balance out -10000; it will take +10000 to do that.
Extremity results in further extremity only when it's the same nature. ie. -1000 + -1000 is adding extremity to extremity, of the same nature (both negative).
People often talk about 'balance' here on this forum. But if one is going to talk about balance, perhaps they could look at the big picture. Of course a single 'extremist' action isn't balanced. It must be balanced with its counterpart.
What, then, pray tell, is the balancing mechanism for THIS extremity:
http://earthlings.com/
??
Slavery, famine and war are all the consequences of extremity having been applied in some way.
Are you suggesting an eye for an eye mentality here?
Are you saying that war is sometimes necessary to solve a war?
This debate has also been ongoing for millennium as philosophers try to address the human social structure.
Balance is the compromise of an extreme at one end toward the extreme at the other end. balance is a process of trying to disallow the extreme of either end to overwhelm the other. At some point in between the two perfect balance is assumed where movement stalls and there is not motion toward either extreme.
It is not a mathematical equation to be balanced with negative and positive integers. This is life and social dynamics that are so complex and constantly evolving and changing that the perfect balance is elusive. There is never a point of immobility with human life, and so there is never a fixed point of perfect balance.
Perfection is not the goal which is why your hopes for a world where we all are vegetarian with spayed pets is out of your reach. The goal is to strive to find harmony in such a way that all/everyone can live together in peace, respect, courtesy and love. And to achieve that compromise is essential. Compromise on your part and theirs. Somewhere within that dynamic resides harmony.
In the dynamic which you seek only those who live as you would will benefit, and you would have made no compromise.
i admit to having not watched that video Monica simply because I do not like to pollute my field with such images and devastation. It is horrible to say the least. But it is human life and undeniably so. For all of us who wish it was different, there are millions more who either do not care or have no desire to give up their luxuries for the sake of your cause.
This is the world we live in and they have as much right to live their way as you do.
you also have the right to question their lifestyle and to try to bring awareness to situations that you feel are incompassionate.
But to suggest that it is as simple as pointing a finger at the culprits and expecting them to admit to their incompassionate ways and change, in my opi8nion just exacerbates your struggle because your goal is expecting more than can be achieved given the circumstances.
All I am saying is that if one wants to challenge humanity than one should consider the complexity of humanity in order to prepare their compromise in order to achieve some movement toward realizing a portion of their goal. If one acts as though humanity must comply fully with their proposed lifestyle, they will become their own enemy and find no movement at all.
Do not fight fire with fire, but compromise by allowing the fire to burn a little less extremely by casting your water slowly upon it.
War begets more war! Hate begets more hate.
Peace and love are found in compromise and understanding that others deserve their way of life every bit as much as we do.