(07-09-2012, 04:36 PM)plenum Wrote:(07-08-2012, 02:46 PM)anagogy Wrote: a present self, and future self could coexist even on a seemingly "first timers" trip through the densities of our octave.
I thought Ra said that those on the negative path do not have a Higher Self? or Oversoul was it?
That is a negatory, my friend.
"Oversoul" is just another word for "Higher Self".
This is what Ra has to say about those on the negative path and their Higher Selves:
Quote:36.12 Questioner: Let me take as an example the one that you said was called Himmler. We are assuming from this that his Higher Self was of the sixth-density and it was stated that Himmler had selected the negative path. Would his Higher Self then dwell in a sixth-density negative type of situation? Can you expand on this concept?
Ra: I am Ra. There are no [negative?] beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality of late sixth density, as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive.
Therefore, the Oversoul which makes its understanding available to all who are ready for such aid is towards the positive. However, the free will of the individual is paramount, and any guidance given by the higher self may be seen in either the positive or negative polarity depending upon the choice of a mind/body/spirit complex.
36.13 Questioner: Then using Himmler as an example, was his Higher Self at the time he was incarnate in the 1940s a sixth-density positively oriented Higher Self?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
36.14 Questioner: Was Himmler in any way in contact with his Higher Self at that time when he was incarnate during the 1940s?
Ra: I am Ra. We remind you that the negative path is one of separation. What is the first separation: the self from the self. The one known as Himmler did not choose to use its abilities of will and polarization to seek guidance from any source but its conscious drives, self-chosen in the life experience and nourished by previous biases created in other life experiences.
So, essentially, all beings whether they be positive or negative have a positive Higher Self which dwells in mid sixth density. Ra was just explaining that there are no negative Higher Selves in existence.