What is the probability of God existing?

[Monica]

Hey, you describe the guy like it could be me at my 18th...

That's a relief! Then there's hope!

I've been present on his forum for 2 years now. As the "theist chewtoy". It's an educational form of massochism.

I know the feeling! I've had that experience on another forum! :-/

With Dawkins it's important to remember that his basic argument is how terribly unlikely Gods existence is as there is absolutely no proof for him. As something able to create something as complex as the universe must be equally complex itself. And as we are able to explain the universe without him. But the flaw here is that any of these things can be used to guess at probability. And the other factors in the equation like how amazingly unlikely it is that a universe formed where matter could exist. How amazingly unlikely it is that this matter could form into stars and planets. How unlikely it is that life evolved in the short timespan that it did. Adding an information processor to the picture makes everything much more likely. Don't call it God though.

I don't really understand how either side of the debate can quantify the probability of something that is so totally unknown. Both sides claim the other is 'unlikely' but what is that based on? There is nothing to contrast the creation/evolution of the UniVerse with.

His followers are almost all rational thinkers but in my experience while they rattle the saber of science, they don't know some of it's core definitions. They put their faith in something they can't completely oversee. Mostly there is anger over what the church has done to them. And a sense of purpose that I often joke as being rather evangelical.

Please elaborate!

Here's the book. I hope it's all right within in the context to link to a shop?

Sure! Thanks for the recommendations - I'll check them out! I've already been giving Christmas stocking stuffers (as hints, ha) of Dean Radin and of course Nassim Haramein.