07-01-2012, 05:51 AM
Monica you are right in that breeders are continuing an ongoing problem. However, wherever the blame lies, we still have the problem to balance out and it seems that dogs in the homes of breeders are better maintained with regard to our of control breeding. We should consider how that can be applied in our own homes in some way.
I agree with you that the mess that unneutered animals can cause in a home is disastrous and that is why mine are neutered whether I liked it or not. And what you have said about contraception with regard to your daughter has made me ask something I have never thought of before. Why is there no pill for our animals to control unwanted offspring? the reason! because most people do not care that their animals are being violated. If their natural tendencies really mattered to us they would have designed a pill long ago.
I am not in complete disagreement with you Monica.
I realize that there is a great need to do this to our pets, and as you note, because of what we have done to the wild nature of our pets we do have an obligation to them as stewards. I would not state that we owe that same obligation to the wild kingdom though. I see way too many charities gathering massive amounts of money to assist wild species, while children are starving to death all over the world. let's take care of our own species first, and let nature care for the wild.
but as for our pets, I think that spaying and neutering may be a necessary evil as you suggest, because we have violated their natural existence by genetically manipulating them, just as it is speculated was done to us by a more advanced species, but I also point out that it is a pet owners obligation to keep their pets in a controlled environment. To allow one's pets to wander and stray just because they are now unable to impregnate or become pregnant is no different that what we allow our daughters to do once we give them the pill.
We tend to solve problems by extreme methods and then go about life as though all is solved.
Unsupervised pets can be subjected to much danger and create much damage, neutered or not. There is something to be said for the way we lack obligation to create supervision and safe environment for our children, let alone our pets.
We are an extremely irresponsible species in many regards.
I agree with you that the mess that unneutered animals can cause in a home is disastrous and that is why mine are neutered whether I liked it or not. And what you have said about contraception with regard to your daughter has made me ask something I have never thought of before. Why is there no pill for our animals to control unwanted offspring? the reason! because most people do not care that their animals are being violated. If their natural tendencies really mattered to us they would have designed a pill long ago.
I am not in complete disagreement with you Monica.
I realize that there is a great need to do this to our pets, and as you note, because of what we have done to the wild nature of our pets we do have an obligation to them as stewards. I would not state that we owe that same obligation to the wild kingdom though. I see way too many charities gathering massive amounts of money to assist wild species, while children are starving to death all over the world. let's take care of our own species first, and let nature care for the wild.
but as for our pets, I think that spaying and neutering may be a necessary evil as you suggest, because we have violated their natural existence by genetically manipulating them, just as it is speculated was done to us by a more advanced species, but I also point out that it is a pet owners obligation to keep their pets in a controlled environment. To allow one's pets to wander and stray just because they are now unable to impregnate or become pregnant is no different that what we allow our daughters to do once we give them the pill.
We tend to solve problems by extreme methods and then go about life as though all is solved.
Unsupervised pets can be subjected to much danger and create much damage, neutered or not. There is something to be said for the way we lack obligation to create supervision and safe environment for our children, let alone our pets.
We are an extremely irresponsible species in many regards.