01-06-2010, 05:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2010, 06:06 PM by kristy1111.)
'ayadew' said:
It is real, but it's not all there is.
*** That makes sense! I'm assuming that by this you mean that there's a whole lot more to us than we realize, and even that can be the "illusion" - because we only see part of the big picture. Yes? No?
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I see you have surrendered a great deal of personal power to this ACIM which you find negative. You may have surrendered the same to Wilcock, depending on him to grant you spiritual growth/happiness. It must not have to be this way. You need not depend on anyone external for your own happiness.
*** Wow! What a wake up call! I thank you for spelling that out for me. You are SO right! How could I have let something or someone rob me of my peace? I will explain how this happened in a "lone" post below.
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We live now. We are human. If a 4th density, or anything great awaits us later, then good!
*** Yes, I have definitely noticed that the only place that fear exists for me is when I'm thinking about the past or the future, and yet we have neither in this density!
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What if there is no goal, what if there is only now? Then goals become of no meaning, only a state of being becomes meaningful.
*** Amen! Thank you! Thank you for all of your wisdom and counsel! xo[/color]
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'Aaron' said:
I think that all spiritual writings, from big ones like the Tao Te Ching or the Bible to small ones like ACIM or any number of new age books, are all different ways of expressing the same Truth.
*** Yes! This makes perfect sense! We all see things in our own unique way, and we all interpret and perceive differently, and then we all express it differently. I often tell people that you could put Brad Pitt in a room with 100 different women. Some would say he's "totally hot", some would say he is hideously ugly, some would say they prefer brunettes, etc. But when you get right down to it, he's still Brad Pitt.![Cool Cool](https://www.bring4th.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.png)
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One of the main reasons why humanity doesn't follow one single religion is because of the way we all interpret things differently.
*** ahhh, yes...what I just said above. Thank you for helping me to remember this!
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No matter what book or religion we're talking about, it made entire sense to the person who started or wrote it. It came from them so it was 100% compatible with them. Others may be able to have a little or a very large amount of realization from that teaching, but whatever amount they have, it will be what they need at that time to spiritually grow.
*** This really makes me think more deeply about the reasons that most religions claim to have the "whole truth". They each have their own life experiences, and they interpret them their own way, and conditioning has a lot to do with it as well (and not from just this incarnation!). Thus far, every religion I've examined claims the truth, and they have proof and convincing evidence for the most part to show that they are right. But in essence, they are ALL right and things are just perfect for them in their leg of the journey.
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This is a place where we can use the term "resonate". I think we can say that the teaching of ACIM doesn't resonate with you.
*** Soooo true...it sure doesn't.
_________________________
If you try too hard to understand the nature of the illusion, you'll get a headache, believe me!
*** What is your definition of "the illusion"?
_______________________
Big thanks to you for all your help!
It is real, but it's not all there is.
*** That makes sense! I'm assuming that by this you mean that there's a whole lot more to us than we realize, and even that can be the "illusion" - because we only see part of the big picture. Yes? No?
______________
I see you have surrendered a great deal of personal power to this ACIM which you find negative. You may have surrendered the same to Wilcock, depending on him to grant you spiritual growth/happiness. It must not have to be this way. You need not depend on anyone external for your own happiness.
*** Wow! What a wake up call! I thank you for spelling that out for me. You are SO right! How could I have let something or someone rob me of my peace? I will explain how this happened in a "lone" post below.
________________
We live now. We are human. If a 4th density, or anything great awaits us later, then good!
*** Yes, I have definitely noticed that the only place that fear exists for me is when I'm thinking about the past or the future, and yet we have neither in this density!
___________________-
What if there is no goal, what if there is only now? Then goals become of no meaning, only a state of being becomes meaningful.
*** Amen! Thank you! Thank you for all of your wisdom and counsel! xo[/color]
____________________
'Aaron' said:
I think that all spiritual writings, from big ones like the Tao Te Ching or the Bible to small ones like ACIM or any number of new age books, are all different ways of expressing the same Truth.
*** Yes! This makes perfect sense! We all see things in our own unique way, and we all interpret and perceive differently, and then we all express it differently. I often tell people that you could put Brad Pitt in a room with 100 different women. Some would say he's "totally hot", some would say he is hideously ugly, some would say they prefer brunettes, etc. But when you get right down to it, he's still Brad Pitt.
![Cool Cool](https://www.bring4th.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.png)
__________________
One of the main reasons why humanity doesn't follow one single religion is because of the way we all interpret things differently.
*** ahhh, yes...what I just said above. Thank you for helping me to remember this!
____________________
No matter what book or religion we're talking about, it made entire sense to the person who started or wrote it. It came from them so it was 100% compatible with them. Others may be able to have a little or a very large amount of realization from that teaching, but whatever amount they have, it will be what they need at that time to spiritually grow.
*** This really makes me think more deeply about the reasons that most religions claim to have the "whole truth". They each have their own life experiences, and they interpret them their own way, and conditioning has a lot to do with it as well (and not from just this incarnation!). Thus far, every religion I've examined claims the truth, and they have proof and convincing evidence for the most part to show that they are right. But in essence, they are ALL right and things are just perfect for them in their leg of the journey.
______________
This is a place where we can use the term "resonate". I think we can say that the teaching of ACIM doesn't resonate with you.
*** Soooo true...it sure doesn't.
_________________________
If you try too hard to understand the nature of the illusion, you'll get a headache, believe me!
*** What is your definition of "the illusion"?
_______________________
Big thanks to you for all your help!