The act of eating is a service.

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When you say the word "criteria", it brings to my mind the concept of.. a checklist. And my understanding is it doesn't work quite like that.

Is your understanding based on the Law of One? Do you disagree with Ra, or are you saying you disagree with my interpretation of Ra's words about the criteria for graduation to 4D?

You know, I don't even know exactly what I meant by that! I had considered removing it from my post. I think what I was getting it as that the word "criteria".. In my brain.. Sound so finite, and I think there are infinite paths to graduation. It was actually more I couldn't go ahead and make my point without first removing that concept from my head - more so than an argument against your interpretation on graduation.. if that even makes a lick of sense?

The concept of right and wrong, as I said earlier is all relative to our values and morals. Right and wrong is not a tangible thing. Our actions can thrown into either category depending on the viewpoint of the individual. However, it is only the intention of the individual performing that action that counts towards their graduation to 4D.

For example, a patient might be critically ill with cancer, and very much desire euthanasia. One doctor might accept these demands out of compassion and put the patent out of his misery. In giving the patient the most dignified possible death for himself and his family, he has chalked up a STO act and taken steps towards being harvestable.

Another doctor might accept these same demands, but without any compassion in his heart, but instead thinking "He's going to die anyway, it'll shorten my rounds. I won't have to worry about him anymore", and is more concerned with the mechanics of having the patient gone, and making his own life easier.

Both doctors could theoretically take the same action on the same patient, but it depends on what is in their hearts as to whether or not it will get them any closer to being harvestable to 4D.

This is how I see it.

I agree. But do we disagree that Ra indicated a certain percentage of green ray activation (love/compassion/Service to Others) is necessary for graduation?

Thus, as I see it, 'wrong' is defined as simply that which interferes with polarizing to the desired polarity.

For an entity desiring to polarize STO, knowingly causing the suffering of another being would be classified as wrong; ie. depolarizing. The very same action might be 'right,' ie. polarizing, for an STS entity.

No, I think we are in agreement.

I could add a third doctor to that scenario, who simply agreed to the patients demands because he loved the feeling of dominance associated with ending a life. If that doctor was trying to polarize STS, in his mind that would be the right thing to do. It could even be a sacred experience. He might not be able to fathom how everyone else didn't enjoy murder. That would just be his reality. Thus, it would make him more harvestable.

Thats what was in his heart and he went with it.

I truly believe polarizing, in either direction, begins and is then measured by your heart. Always go with your heart.

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The concept of right and wrong, as I said earlier is all relative to our values and morals. Right and wrong is not a tangible thing.

Pain sucks. Misery and suffering sucks. That is, if you happen to be in the position to experience it.

If you were to come back in 10, 30, 50, or even a 100 years after you die, what would you change in this moment for your future existence?

What would you do to prepare the way for your next ride?

Is there a right and wrong way to setup shop? Are you willing to make every single mistake and experience every single pain all over again? Or are you willing to ensure that you do not go through all of the same mistakes again?

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This may be easier understood if you had done work on your geneology, and understood that removing just a single link in your lineage would most likely remove you as well. Just take a few steps back and imagine yourself to be in a position higher up in the tree, and look at how many people under that one have shaped the history you experience now. You are in that position to create the future.

Let's say you bring about laws that govern how you will be treated later. (Martin Luther King) Let's say you nuke the landscape so that certain plant life no longer exist, and your return goes through a deficiency making you allergic to sunlight. Let's say you are in a lab and create a biogerm that shortens attention spans permanently, and the population becomes permanently changed.

Do morals fit into this picture or does logical thought fit better? Are you creating the future with morals or rational thought?

I think religion tried to create using morals. And it looks like theosophists tried to create using logic. I think religion failed, many of them can't wait for the rapture to take them away from what they created.

I always go back to this Tom Robbins quote -

If you believe in peace, act peacefully; if you believe in love, act lovingly; if you believe in every which way, then act in every which way, that's perfectly valid- but don't go out trying to sell your beliefs to the System. You end up contradicting what you profess to believe in, and you set a bum example. If you want to change the world, change yourself.

This is the only way I know how to make a positive change. If I was to go back up the family tree, or to try and prepare the way for a future incarnation, I'd still live by this same principle.

I personally, wasn't built to lead, or to teach, or to govern. I have no interest in politics, and little faith in the way scriptures have been interpreted and the stigma and dogma that comes with them. I do my best on a personal level day to day, to cultivate compassion and bring about a change of heart in those around me, by setting the best example I know how. For me, that's enough. For the next person, maybe not so. And that's understandable.



(I should mention, I didn't read the first 12 pages of this thread, and I'm not sure how this relates to the original topic. Sorry if I've played a part in derailing this thread! )