In regards to eating meat

[Patrick]

Yes. Plants should never even have entered into this conversation, being that we have no choice about whether to eat plants.
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We do. Humans are perfectly fine eating exclusively animals. This has been thoroughly demonstrated. At least for some human metabolism.

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Can you see the absurdity of someone insisting that plants are like us, while at the same time insisting that animals aren't like us?

It is because animals are more like us physically that there is confusion in between 2d and 3d in this discussion.

Because we can understand how they can suffer. But I, for one, cannot understand how trees can suffer. All I know is that they can. And this makes plants very relevant to this discussion.