In regards to eating meat

[Patrick]

...The China Study proved that the more meat consumed, the higher the risk of cancer. Common sense dictates that there's a connection there.

The China Study is purely epidemiological. The connection or correlations it shows cannot prove anything.

I'm familiar with the critiques of The China Study.

Are you familiar with a Raw Vegan critique of The China Study ?

http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/08/06/final-c...onse-html/

If both whole-food vegan diets and non-Westernized omnivorous diets yield similar health benefits, this is a strong indication that the results achieved by McDougall, Esselstyn, Ornish, et al are not due to the avoidance of animal products but to the elimination of other health-harming items...

You should really read this whole paper. Her conclusions are based on using the same data from the The China Study and showing stronger correlations for ill health than the correlation pointing toward eating meat per se.

It's a must read for anyone wanting to argue or event support The China Study.

Sugar is a problem too, no doubt about it. And it might be true that it's 'more' of a problem than meat. Perhaps. But there being a stronger poison out there doesn't negate the lesser poison, if in fact it's true that sugar's a stronger poison.

The poison is in the dose my friend. Water can be a poison to your metabolism if the dose is too high.

You tried what? Do you mean you tried some vegan desserts instead of regular desserts?

What I meant was, have you ever tried a 100% raw vegan diet?

Yeah I tried raw food vegan. You wouldn't believe everything I tried.

OK, I believe you. My experience has been that, whenever I resolve the metaphysical cause of something, I then find a physical approach that works. I see it as resetting the metaphysical blueprint first, and then physical remedies work.

Physical remedies won't work alone; the metaphysical cause must be resolved first. But then physical remedies are often necessary too. They work together.

It's probably the case for all catalysts.