In regards to eating meat

[Shemaya]

Norral: "It is always darkest before the dawn"

We are here to raise the vibration. To provide an alternative way of thinking. And love even those who choose to disrespect themselves, and therefore treat themselves and each other poorly.

(And it is not much better in Europe, anyway There are different issues here. Different, but not better or worse..)

Oldern you posted my favorite song!!! Cosmic love So archetypal

But I think you meant this awesome song Love this one too, very appropo,
" it's hard to dance with the devil on your back so shake him off!"

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Just imagine me jumping around dancing shaking the devil off my back

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Great article about the horrific conditions of factory farming and the violations to both animal and human rights in the Mother Jones article below:

http://motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012...pink-slime

Thanks for the article, Gary.

I often wonder about the workers in the industry, what an awful job. It would be very difficult to keep the heart open in those conditions.

My son said he was interested in helping me raise hens. I was really excited about that yesterday. Have never done anything like that before and know nothing about it so I am a little scared I'll mess up.

look at how we drop bombs on people. when someone is killed accidentally in afghan we apologize. how hysterically sad that is. oh by the way i accidentally killed your grandchild . u understand dont u i am an american u sb happy that i apologized. i mean i did say i am sorry that makes it all better. what incredible incredible arrogance this country has. i saw all the killing in vietnam.

Gosh, norral, I am right with you on these sentiments. We think think we are patriots because we wave our flags and support the troops, but we don't even know the nefarious agendas we are supporting. A true patriot is willing to speak up as you do, norral.