1973.08.x - Hatonn & Oxal

[3D Sunset]

In time/space we are observers - the dreamers. We do not influence physical reality, only watch through consciousness on different levels of complexity. Your ideas here would also be congruent with my model.

I agree, the time aspect of phi, chi, and psi are created in s/t but can be viewed in t/s. There is more to this relationship than I've expressed so far. I need more time to formulate it and see how to present it.

Interesting! What would you define as 'stronger'? More involved, conscious of all current factors that makes up the experience?

To me, it is a reflection of the amount of attention we are paying. In any given moment, it seems that we are providing some amount of attention to each axis, with each possibly approaching, but never achieving either zero or infinity. What is interesting is that for this to work, each resultant group of points must also map to a specific point in the scalar time of s/t. As such, you can see that you have at most two degrees of freedom within the system. If you choose to focus on phi and psi for example, then chi will be determined such that it maps to the proper point in s/t. If you focus on only one axis, then the other two will somehow achieve a balance to result in the proper scalar time.

So, a specific coordinates of phi,chi and psi will result in a specific experience of the other self, self and environment. I must say this makes much sense, but is it possible to, by this definition, also assign all of them scalar values such as described in my model?

Rather, I would see a specific set of coordinates describes a specific state of consciousness at a specific point in s/t.

This doesn't seem to work. May I suggest that Phi/Chi/Psi exist in each time-dimension, thus making up 3 different Phi/Chi/Psi, totaling 9? Hm.
If Phi/Chi/Psi is the heart-plane, consisting of feelings, then the scalar planes in my model may be simply the interpretation of the 5 senses.

Or maybe Phi/Chi/Psi are only linked to the physical plane; keeping the scalar 3 dimensional time model.

(just throwing ideas here, havn't really thought this over )

There are many possible applications of the concepts, and frankly it is all new to me as well. The idea really emerged as a thought bubble that I was handed while meditating. The outer layer of the bubble contained the recognition that I had some months ago that time was really an expression of experience. As I began to peel the bubble, these other concepts emerged. On my Larson thread, I was trying to find a way to see how s/t and t/s relate. This led me to some interesting concepts (insights?) that I shared there and am now expanding here. I am open to all thoughts.

Perhaps your 'magnitude' cannot be detected in this reality, then. I must say that this idea makes much sense though.

That is my supposition. My original quest was to try to visualize an environment in which our consciousness is visible (understanding that visualizing t/s is really impossible, I somehow can't help trying to find analogues that help) as appears to be the case in Ra's descriptions of t/s.

Another thought I recently had, was that perhaps the self to others axis should be called omega, rather than phi. This idea resonated with me on a couple of levels. In much the same way that chi and psi have other compatible connotations in metaphysics, so to does omega (the end). This also gives us chi, psi and omega (the final three Greek letters) as analogues to x, y, and z (the final three letter of the western alphabet).

Thanks for the feedback and ideas,

More to come in a few days,

Love and Light,

3D Sunset