In regards to eating meat

[Tenet Nosce]

Choice precedes transcendence. Neglecting to choose, with faced with compassion vs non-compassion, isn't transcendence.

We are always choosing. Only there is more than a single linear axis of compassion/non-compassion to choose from.

Having an "anything goes" attitude isn't transcendence.

I agree.

Who said anything about promoting personal suffering?

Promoting it? Nobody, I believe.

Having compassion, and making the choice to no longer contribute to the suffering of others, doesn't require personal suffering.

Suffering occurs. We are all a part of it. We each come to curtail our contributions in our own way, and in our own time.

The Law of Once includes Choice. We are in the density of choice.

I believe each of us is choosing all the time. So yes, I would agree.

I see a prevalent attitude here in this community, to attempt to apply Oneness, while leaving out Choice.

I don't believe I can accurately assess that statement one way or another.

They are the same.

Do you not believe that all possible timelines exist? We do not change the outer world, we only change our perception. Those "others" "out there" are the primary creators in their own personal dramas. Their creator-ship outweighs our own.

By focusing on self only, while neglecting the outer-self, is separating self from the whole.

And it would also make one quite smelly!

Compassion is one of the keys to polarizing STO. How could that possible be a distraction?

It is a distraction when what is considered compassionate is teaching others what compassion is without simultaneously learning what it is from them. It is a bi-directional exchange. If it is teach/learning than it wouldn't be a distraction.

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It's a further opinion. I'm not that attached to it being true... not planning to write a book about it or anything.

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you don't consider the support of brutally and killing torturing sentient creatures STS, but you consider the avoidance of eating said creatures out of a belief that it is defiling, to be STS?

You are not understanding me correctly.

Taken to its extreme, ie. caring about our own comfort and not having compassion for others, that would be STS polarizing.

Yes, I agree.

I think that's backwards.

OK.

Ask anyone who has forgotten all about their own suffering by immersing themselves in helping others.

What is it like? Tell us a story!

Do we even have any vegans in this thread?

I didn't realize that fact made it irrelevant to speak of veganism.

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I'd rather feel a pang of pain at seeing other-self body parts at the grocery store, than harden so much that I feel nothing.

OK.

Goodness gracious, no one has suggested that we choose compassion at the exclusion of those others!

Neither have I suggested they are mutually exclusive!