In regards to eating meat

[Tenet Nosce]

I am going to answer the following from my personal point of view, as it is easier than trying to word it impersonally.

I put that line in the post in order to differentiate between the first part, which was a direct response to you, and the second part, which is more along the lines of general thoughts and observations. I'm not quite clear if you were aware of that or not.

You say "many vegans"; are you referring to the people involved in this thread?

I am referring to vegans as a group, in the totality of my experience of them. Not limited to this thread. Also, I recognize that there are many vegans whose choice has little or nothing to do with those particular philosophical principles. But as a whole, yes I believe they go hand in hand.

We may all be ONE, and humans may all have a collective consciousness, but is that a reason to just let all barbarism be?

Clearly 5000+ years of trying to defeat barbarism hasn't worked. Perhaps the answer is found in being, rather than doing.

Do we not want to evolve? Is not awareness part of evolution? Is it not appropriate in this discussion thread to bring awareness of needless suffering?

Is it not appropriate to bring awareness that needlessly suffering over the needless suffering of others is counterproductive to evolving?

This reminds me of people who say (and as a naturopath you might have heard this), the air is polluted, the water is polluted, so why bother trying to eat right or quit smoking?

If that is one's view, who am I to try to convince them otherwise? As a naturopath, is it my duty to proselytize to the world about healthy eating and the dangers of smoking?

I am not trying to be perfect. I am working toward a higher consciousness, which would involve not causing harm. I have no idea if I can attain it. But I will not consciously cause needless harm where I know of it.

I'm not trying to talk you out of whatever you are doing.

I have several times on this forum suggested the same. But does that preclude any responsibilities for our choices until we become completely healed?

It doesn't preclude it... but it does augment it.

but then what are we doing here?

Shadow work.

Why are wanderers here? Why did Ra give us information? Why didn't Ra just leave us be?

Ra gave information because they were asked. Of the information they provided, as regard diet, they said:

We do not suggest any hard and fast rulings of diet although we may suggest the virtue of the liquids.

I am not trying to change anybody, and I do not look at the world and see suffering all of the time. I am trying to add my awareness to this venue of discussions.

Great! As I said, the second part of the post was not directed at you personally. Thanks for your contributions- I find them to be valuable.