In regards to eating meat

[yossarian]

I don't know what you are saying. I don't know where you picked my value levels.

I'm guessing that you find "fatalism" pessimistic. (did I have this conversation in an Azrael thread?).

I've read your posts for years. I guess understanding my last post requires a bunch of background info on the various words I'm using.

You are often a critic of convictions of any sort, and basically present yourself as a kind of Socrates. Whenever someone has a conviction, you come by and say something along the lines of "we can never really know anything." This is philosophically called "skepticism" and I think it's a powerful philosophy.

So out of everyone on this forum I would say your communications display the most skepticism.

You often seem to say things that are nonsensical intentionally--stuff that doesn't make logical sense or that is absurd intended to point out people's blind spots or to get people to think outside the box.

In my opinion, skeptics often get stuck in a kind of intellectual and moral tarpit where nothing is true and nothing can be known and, in a way, nothing exists or really matters.

A question that is extremely relevant to this kind of skeptic is their relationship to the objective world and to the subjective world.

The subjective world is stuff that is highly personal and cannot be verified by other people. This is who you are as a consciousness and how you experience the world directly. This experience can be described but can never really be shared, at least not in normal human life.

The objective world is stuff that you identify as outside yourself.

Skeptics tend to place low value on the subjective and believe that the subjective should NOT be a guide for action. I'm interested in this question... just because the subjective is not objective why should it not be used as a guide to action? That's sort of the question I was trying to ask you.