03-08-2012, 12:44 AM
(03-07-2012, 05:19 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote:(03-07-2012, 04:17 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:(03-07-2012, 03:53 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote:(03-07-2012, 12:46 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I don't think you feel it at all.
What do you mean? Any perceived contact or meaningful occurrence during meditation is a hallucination or mind-influenced event?
Pretty much. What does eating an Oreo cookie feel like? How do you eat an Oreo? I like to hold it in milk so long it disentigrates on my tongue. Would it help to lie still and clear my mind and believe there are angels in the room with me? Well, if I'm so inclined, it would be an experience I could label intelligent infinity. That's just a label though. I could call it a wonderful Saturday morning and get the same results.
But the sensation of eating an oreo cookie is something you can attain through specific practices. Go to the store, buy and oreo cookie, and eat it. If you want it to dissolve on your tongue, hold it in milk.
Doing certain things lead to a certain experience. If you want to call eating an oreo cookie intelligent infinity, that's fine, but I'd say it's akin to calling eating an avocado "eating an oreo cookie." Sure it's great, and we experience it subjectively, but they're different things that come from different avenues of experience. And calling it "eating an avocado" instead of "eating an oreo cookie" does not delegitimize the experience of eating the oreo cookie, or make it any less real, or change the experience of actually eating an avocado.
Yeah. What I'm saying is that we can call intelligent energy whatever we want because it can't be measured either way. 'Whatever suits your fancy'