2007.03.25 The Female Orgasm

[Ali Quadir]

as women having a responsibility to help to guide men from mere lust to the spiritual expression of sexuality. This is what caused my personal reaction (don't know about Ali).

Yes, this is what I responded and objected to...

I compared the sentence to the old and fortunately mostly forgotten idea that women need men to help them to think properly. A man does not need a woman to come to spiritual realization. Neither does a woman need a man.

I understand that Monica's view is not as biased as this sentence seems to portrey it. We got a badly distorted understanding of her position due to this unfortunate sentence. And a few other sentences that did not help us get back on the proper path.

But we got there in the end

Right now my understanding and opinion is that our polarity differences of females and males, are much more subtle than people think, and I personally do not see these differences that clearly (and that is where I was trying to point out that I see the societal roles as distorted. They are "social/cultural" and are what I call, in the most times driven by an auto-pilot mode).

I agree with this... In my opinion the distortion society experiences about the genders is still repressing our true natures. Most of us do not even notice this. Even when they are all for breaking through the gender stereotypes they still impose them on themselves and upon others. In the worst case they want to make men and women equal by reversing gender images. Having boys play with dolls and girls with cars. Being forced into any role of course does not help people be themselves.

Being a masculine man who goes out to fight his buddies or some other team on saturday with a rugby team or feminine woman who gather together to make scented candles is perfectly alright of course. It is even allright for that man not to be interested in scented candles he is not unbalanced because of it. Neither is the woman who can't throw a punch an unbalanced person. Neither is a man who loves candlemaking unbalanced, and neither is a female rugby player unbalanced.

The pagans I hang out with occasionally do art and craft things.. They sit together and make candles. Some guys really get into it.. Others just can't, it doesn't interest them. Some don't even try, they just sit around with a beer chatting.

In the sack it's really about individuals isn't it? Not about genders. So no one has to guide anyone. It is no ones responsibility to do anything. Other than be with the other person in a private moment where we give and receive freely of ourselves.

We are not divided into two groups. We are a spectrum of sexuality and gender identity. And each individual within that spectrum occupies a valid position.