2007.03.25 The Female Orgasm

[Ankh]

I think that I understand how you mean. I disagree and regard it to be an honor of both.

Then do you disagree with what Ra and Q'uo said about there being a difference?

Nope. Hopefully I will be able to explain myself below.

What I'm wondering is: Do you disagree with what Ra/Q'uo said, or do you feel that you agree with them but just interpret their words differently than I do? Or, do you think Ra's/Q'uo's explanations just don't apply to everyone?

It's perfectly fine to not resonate with something Ra or Q'uo said, of course. I'm just trying to understand whether it's the whole idea of there being any inherent differences between male and female that you disagree with, ie. Ra's/Q'uo's clear indication that there are...OR is it that you feel Ra/Q'uo were referring to those who are veiled and that once we become aware those roles no longer apply?

I don't disagree with Ra/Q'uo, but interpret it differently. I also think that Q'uo are speaking more broadly, and more in generalities, while Ra has been more careful with generalities, and was pointing out when they spoke in those, though still being somewhat reluctant when speaking in those.

Of course it is perfectly fine to not resonate with Ra and/or Q'uo. Most of my friends are in that category and I like them anyway. I am just not one of those persons.

It seems to me that there is some indignation being expressed at the very idea that there could be an inherent difference between the sexual nature of male and female. I'm a little surprised at this, being that, in my understanding, Ra and Q'uo have both clearly stated as such.

So, I am attempting to reconcile Ra's and Q'uo's words.

Do you mean that you are one of those who feel this indignation, or that you feel that there is resistance from for instance me towards what Ra/Q'uo said? I am not resistant to what they are saying, but as I pointed out, seem to interpret it differently than you perhaps; plus I also think that there might be some exceptions among entities upon whom what Ra/Q'uo said, in some of their statements, can not be applied.

Ra indicated a clear difference between the sexual roles of male and female. Q'uo seemed to focus on the female in this session, because that's what the question was about.

I am not sure that Ra was actually speaking in terms of *roles*, or were they?

Could it be that they wasn't referring to men and women literally, but to the ever-changing energies in both men and women? Is that how this is reconciled? Surely Ra and Q'uo aren't limited by societal gender roles, right?

I think it was a great idea of ever-changing energies in both men and women that you brought up, and that they did not mean men and women literally. But I don't know. In that case, each quote needs to be examined in order to see it. What do you mean by Ra/Q'uo are not limited by societal gender roles? You mean in our society or theirs or...?

Could it be that, as the veil thins, all that ancient wisdom no longer applies? I'm not being facetious here but entirely serious. Many people are confused about their sexuality, to the point of even having their sex changed. I wonder how all this fits in with Ra's and Q'uo's words.

I certainly believe that as the veil thins, the gender roles we assign ourselves through "culture" becoming visible, and we cease playing these roles, as more conscious awareness is awakened. Then as you point out, this is a very confused planet. Personally I believe that there has been too much distortions in what you call "ancient wisdom". But as long as polarities exist through the densities, i.e. third, fourth and fifth, the "nature" of females and males, i.e. gender specific polarities, are explored.

I don't know the answer to these questions, but am just musing...

Same here.

I remember you wrote that I always sound so sure and confindent in my posts. Well, I am not. I am just sharing my current understanding based on what I have to come to understand. And that changes as more/other facts/understandings are gained. Just wanted you to know that. =)

But let's look at what Q'uo said:

This is green-ray affection and it is at this point that the female orgasm becomes useful. There are more miles to go indeed in exploring sacred sexuality, but this is where it begins.

Here is the difference in our understandings, I believe. I see in the above Q'uo quote that it's when the green ray is applied, the female offers all that Q'uo/Ra state that the women offer, and vice versa in regards to men. While you are interpreting it as something that applies before the green ray affection, and not only in sexual intimacy but also in everyday life. Meaning that in the everyday life, and before the green ray affection is activated in both entities, it is a woman's responsibility/honor to guide male from lower centers into the higher. And I don't agree with you here, as I think that both genders offer the catalysts which, if we choose to accept the honor to serve our partner, and also become consciously aware of our own lessons, will hopefully lead us from what you refer to as lower centers, or mere lust, to higher centers and sacred beingness. It is not only woman's responsibility/honor to guide men in everyday life, but an honor of both, if both the woman and man chooses to consciously accept and work with this responsibility/honor, which is my personal opinion.

Of course I am not blind to visible roles that women and men play today in our societies. These roles, in my humble opinion, are more consisted of what I refer to as "culture". The true "nature", that nature that Ra and Q'uo talk about, which regard the polarities and makes 360 degrees of the Creatorship, is something that is much more subtle.

Wait, it gets better:

If you are a woman, you treasure yourself. You do not worry about having an orgasm, as if it were the same thing as a man’s orgasm for, my friends, it is not. Certainly it can be made rough and primitive. It can have the energy simply of sexual congress in the red ray. However, it is far more likely for the feminine temperament to appreciate what’s going on when that orgasm happens to her. For a woman tends to have more of a connection with the unseen world. So, she is actually more aware of the kind of energy that is pouring through her when she is expressing an orgasm physically.

Consequently, a woman in that position is a priestess, just as a man is a priest, in sexual intercourse when they are working together sacredly. But to the man goes that kind of energy that is called by this instrument “yang,” to the woman goes the energy that is considered by this instrument “yin,” so that, in the sexual energy exchange that is sacred in nature, from the man comes that powerful energy of physical wellness and vitality—that which you think of when you think of the word “masculine.”

What the feminine offers is the inspiration from spirit. That is the other portion of that male expression of strength, power and virility. The woman is expressing acceptance, unconditional love, and the energy of the Creator Itself. For you see, the woman, unlike man, is possessed of a direct route or connection to the womb of, shall we say, Mother Nature or the red-ray energy of planet Earth.

The woman has that sea of infinity and eternity flowing through her. She is much closer to her priestliness because she must tend to the circumstances of her menses monthly and she feels the pull of the moon, the tides, and her passions in a way that, generally speaking, men are not encouraged to do in your culture.

This supports what I personally understand for the moment. The different energies that women respectively men posses, which I refer to as "nature", are exchanged in intimate moments, after activation of the green ray. Do you see the difference in our interpretations of Ra/Q'uo quote now? Or, Monica, if I have missed some quotes where Q'uo/Ra stated differently, I would love to have them pointed out to me. It will surely give me a good material to process and come to a more reasonable understanding.

In my experience, I do not see the differences between men and women in everyday life that clearly. I see more the individual differences than the differences between genders. The differences that exist between these genders today in our society that are visible (i.e. you=man, go and fix the lawn; you=woman, go and cook some dinner) are more based on how we think that it is supposed to be, i.e. what I refer to as "culture". It's an auto-pilot mode. I don't think that women are born with genes for liking pink color and princesses, as I don't think that men are born with genes for liking fixing the lawn and cars (bad analogy perhaps, but hopefully I was now able to express what I understand for the moment).

Why did Q'uo say the female orgasm becomes useful?

Why didn't Q'uo say that both orgasms become equally useful at this point?

The above, as I stated, are expressed in energy transfers, *after* an activation of the green ray. *Before* this activation occures, *both* genders help each other to come to that point - as I see it; while you state that this applies before the green ray activation, meaning that it is a woman's honor to guide man to this, before either her or him are there. While I say that before the green ray activation both genders, are helping each other, if chosen, to this activation, as long as both are still learning ways of love.