2007.03.25 The Female Orgasm

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Monica, I am not sure about Ali, but this is the sentence that I personally reacted at:

My interpretation of Ra's words on the subject is that women have a sacred responsibility to help guide men from mere lust (lower chakras only) to the spiritual expression of sexuality (communion on the higher chakras also).

First of all, you mean Q'uo, right? This is a Q'uo session that we are discussing here, not the Ra material. You continue saying Ra in your later posts, when I think that you mean Q'uo, but we'll see. The Ra quote that you made in this thread though, goes definitely with this topic as well, in order to illuminate some things:

87.27 Questioner: Would you do that?
Ra: I am Ra. You are correct in assuming that the energy of which we speak in discussing sexual energy transfers is a form of vibratory bridge between space/time and time/space. Although this distinction is not apart from that which follows, that which follows may shed light upon that basic statement.

Due to the veiling process the energy transferred from male to female is different than that transferred from female to male. Due to the polarity difference of the mind/body/spirit complexes of male and female the male stores physical energy, the female mental and mental/emotional energy. When third-density sexual energy transfer is completed the male will have offered the discharge of physical energy. The female is, thereby, refreshed, having far less physical vitality. At the same time, if you will use this term, the female discharges the efflux of its stored mental and mental/emotional energy, thereby offering inspiration, healing, and blessing to the male which by nature is less vital in this area.

Prerequisite for the sexual energy transfer is that the energy has reached the green center, or the heart. I believe that in the quote that plenum provided about female orgasm, Q'uo addresses that kind of energy transfer when they are talking about sacred sex.

So, I believe that saying that it is women's responsibility to "guide men from mere lust (lower chakras only) to the spiritual expression of sexuality (communion on the higher chakras also)", is not what Q'uo or Ra said.

If we look at the Ra quote now, Ra says that the male stores physical energy, while female stores mental or mental/emotional energy. If both reach the green center, they can exchange these energies with each other. There is nothing in that particular quote that says that women need some kind of prerequisite in order to create a safe atmosphere for women to have an orgasm. However, Q'uo addresses this matter:

How can you, then, value the female orgasm? You value it by creating a safe atmosphere in which such a thing can take place. You value it by continuing an atmosphere of gentleness, honor, romance, if you will: those small things that, to the feminine temperament, indicate a genuine and deep interest and not simply the red-ray sexual energy of lust.

You see here that Q'uo are talking about the whole atmosphere and not only about the initial stages. Mind also their choice of word "value" when speaking of a female orgasm. However, Ra said that this orgasm is not necessary for the sexual energy transfer to occur:

Questioner: I am trying to determine whether the direction of energy transfer is a function of orgasm. Which entity gets the transferred energy? I know it’s a dumb question, but I want to be sure that I have it cleared up.

Ra: I am Ra. If both entities are well polarized and vibrating in green-ray love any orgasm shall offer equal energy to both.

Q'ou talk *specifically* about the female orgasm in this session, and not about men's. Nevertheless, what they are saying is that:

Consequently, if two entities choose to become magical in their sexual practice, they have the ability to become great ambassadors, if you will, of light. For as they consciously call up this power that they have together and give it to each other, when they are completely saturated and filled up with this energy of orgasm, they then allow that orgasm to shine, both into the world of time/space and the world of space/time.

In the world of time/space, it is a kind of birth of created light. You have, in your own way, lightened that expression of the Creator that is occurring upon your Earth at this particular moment. You have energized and healed, with your magically offered energy, the natural function of your sexuality.

Women may guide men, but it is done *after* they have both reached the heart center, and become magical, but mind how much they use word "together".

Which is, interesting enough, a bit contradictory to what Ra says in this matter:

It will be noted that once green ray energy transfer has been achieved by two mind/body/spirits in mating, the further rays are available without both entities having the necessity to progress equally.

(Paraphrased)

Generally speaking, the emotional component is more important to women than to men in the initial stages of sexual arousal, whereas men are better able to feel their emotions after a satisfying sexual encounter. In other words, an emotional connection leads to better sex for the woman; whereas, better sex for the man can lead to a deeper emotional connection.

So say the Chinese sages.

This seems to correlate with what Ra says.

Did you mean Ra or Q'uo?

I think the reason our conversation seems to be taking 2 different tracks is that, while I agree with your comments about 3D relationships, ie., wherein people are tasked with opening the heart, my comments are primarily referring to sexual energy transfer at the level of the higher chakras.

I think that confusion between two of you started with the post, where you stated that women are tasked to guide men from mere lust, or lower centers, to the higher ones, to which Ali replied in the first place. Then you said the above and this is where confusion started.

This is of course a generalization, but having read the original texts, they were saying that women tend to get more aroused when they are emotionally connected, whereas men tended to not have any trouble with arousal, whether they were emotionally connected or not. This may be true for men too, but the emotional connection tends to be more important for women, at the foreplay stage. Yes yes this is a stereotype but that doesn't mean there isn't truth in it. Just relaying what the Chinese sages said...which, again, I think correlates to what Ra said, generally speaking.

Which specific Ra quote's does the above correlates to?