02-28-2012, 06:01 PM
@Monica
I read you... I think we basically agree. And that you'd agree that the essential difference between man and woman is not easily defined. I don't think speaking of direction of spiritual energy helps us very much.. We can't really test those theories. The meat of the matter seems to be merely physical traits and general tendencies. The latter is extremely influenced by culture.
@Diana
You refer to the stereotypical image of our species evolution. These are not at all fixed in stone. We simply presume that the males went to hunt for the dangerous animals while the women stayed at home to take care of the children and foraged for food.
This is partly true, partly an idea our post victorian era biologists had... If we look at our next of kin animals. There is for most members of a pack not a strict separation into male and female roles. If you're not looking at the alpha male, then a male is still a male isn't he? When we look at primitive earth tribes today. The strict separation of roles is extremely rare. Not that there are no general differences. Women tend to gather more and men tend to hunt more dangerous animals. But women hunt too, and men obviously gather plants too.. There are so many exceptions to these supposedly fixed rules that they are more likely to be firmly held beliefs than real facts of life.. (There are actual tribes out there in which the women do the hunting)
Procreating as often as possible is for human males simply a recipe for disaster. A man who procreates as often as possible will have kids who have no available father. A man who procreates less and provides more will have stronger kids who are more likely to survive and grow strong.. The male female pairing is evolved into mankind... It is certainly not contrary to male psychology. This is one of those sexist beliefs that has entered into our society. But look at males. They are still acting their primitive behavior patterns. And they're not procreating as often as they can. Most of them are trying very hard to find one good woman and if they have trouble at all it's that they don't know how to be a man for that woman... Evolutionists call this theory you speak from the selfish gene theory.. But the fact is that reality doesn't obey that theory.
Human society is clearly not defined by alpha males. It's very rare you find a true alpha male in real life.
I guess when you really try to put your finger on the differences. When you really try to get to the core of the matter it just vanishes and proves to be a highly unreliable discerning factor.. To me it really boils down to vague patterns in behavior. And the degree to which these are truly embedded in our gender or just ideas we have about our gender is hard to discern.
I read you... I think we basically agree. And that you'd agree that the essential difference between man and woman is not easily defined. I don't think speaking of direction of spiritual energy helps us very much.. We can't really test those theories. The meat of the matter seems to be merely physical traits and general tendencies. The latter is extremely influenced by culture.
@Diana
You refer to the stereotypical image of our species evolution. These are not at all fixed in stone. We simply presume that the males went to hunt for the dangerous animals while the women stayed at home to take care of the children and foraged for food.
This is partly true, partly an idea our post victorian era biologists had... If we look at our next of kin animals. There is for most members of a pack not a strict separation into male and female roles. If you're not looking at the alpha male, then a male is still a male isn't he? When we look at primitive earth tribes today. The strict separation of roles is extremely rare. Not that there are no general differences. Women tend to gather more and men tend to hunt more dangerous animals. But women hunt too, and men obviously gather plants too.. There are so many exceptions to these supposedly fixed rules that they are more likely to be firmly held beliefs than real facts of life.. (There are actual tribes out there in which the women do the hunting)
Procreating as often as possible is for human males simply a recipe for disaster. A man who procreates as often as possible will have kids who have no available father. A man who procreates less and provides more will have stronger kids who are more likely to survive and grow strong.. The male female pairing is evolved into mankind... It is certainly not contrary to male psychology. This is one of those sexist beliefs that has entered into our society. But look at males. They are still acting their primitive behavior patterns. And they're not procreating as often as they can. Most of them are trying very hard to find one good woman and if they have trouble at all it's that they don't know how to be a man for that woman... Evolutionists call this theory you speak from the selfish gene theory.. But the fact is that reality doesn't obey that theory.
Human society is clearly not defined by alpha males. It's very rare you find a true alpha male in real life.
I guess when you really try to put your finger on the differences. When you really try to get to the core of the matter it just vanishes and proves to be a highly unreliable discerning factor.. To me it really boils down to vague patterns in behavior. And the degree to which these are truly embedded in our gender or just ideas we have about our gender is hard to discern.