12-03-2009, 09:36 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-03-2009, 09:58 PM by Questioner.)
(12-03-2009, 06:34 AM)Ashim Wrote: Jelaila seems to be a Walk-In...That's exactly how she describes herself in the material I saw from her.
Quote:To offer a little personal background information is of no harmI wonder if you'd be willing to start a thread in the Wanderer Stories section about your own personal experiences? This would let appreciation of your story have its own location, separate from the Atlantis discussion.
Quote:The method of inducing the trance state is, again , an individual one.Quite an interesting situation, thank you for describing it. I've not had anything that compares, so it's interesting to learn about your experience.
Quote:The understanding given to me is that a permanent council of positively polarized entities from all reaches of this galaxy act as Guardians. They are responsible for maintaining the quarantine currently in place on earth. Their home is the higher densities of the planet Saturn. The Galactic Federation, to whom the council belongs watch over all densities of this octave.That matches up with what is discussed in the Ra books.
Quote:Hubbard channelled his information from negative sources
I imagine moderators might want to extract this from the Atlantis thread, but I disagree with that interpretation.
Quote:implants that are designed to effect you in a negative fashion, similar in a way to psychic greetings....The message you send by joining, as a vibration, is that you are not able to have insight on these matters yourself.As I understand it, the "absence of green way" or Service-To-Self polarity seeks to gain in its own path by gaining the unquestioning compliance of other-selves who give themselves over to that control.
I enjoy your contributions here, Ashim, and hope you feel this to be a forum where your point of view is respected.
(12-03-2009, 06:39 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(12-03-2009, 06:34 AM)Ashim Wrote: What ever you do stay away from all secret societies, occult groups or their like.
Do you include religions in your list of things to avoid?
Avoiding religions, covens, or secret societies might be appropriate for some, while not for others. Our own dear Carla worships at a Christian church!
I don't want to put words in Ashim's mouth, but in context, I think he was talking about anything that involves abdicating your own thought processes because someone else claims to have the one and only way to be right with God. Carla's made clear that her Christianity is about the love of Christ, not about dogma. And her channeled sources consistently point out that they want people to only take what resonates with them, with no fear that any particular greeting is some kind of last chance to be saved. That seems pretty far from the kind of occult manipulations that Ashim warned against.
(12-03-2009, 06:39 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: this excerpt from Q'uo...
Quote:...satisfying that portion of the tribe of humankind’s deeper mind which is used to these energies and feels comfortable with them, not because they are good but because they are what planet Earth is all about.
This sounds to me exactly like what an abused person says when they go back to their abuser, or into another abusive situation. It's not that it's comfortable, it's just that for the victim, it is what feels like home. I interpret this passage from Q'uo as describing how that process applies to all of humanity.
Peregrinus, thank you for passing along the information about the Niburian group.
What I feel is the most protective question for me: Does this person or group claim that if I don't follow just what they say, I'll miss my one chance at heaven? Or do they say, please feel free to use what you like of this material and set the rest aside?