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    Thread: Past Lives


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    02-23-2012, 07:22 AM
    (02-23-2012, 06:26 AM)Ankh Wrote: Only those that kind of "have always been there" and come with some kind of knowingness, I accept as "unmistakenbly", because when I doubt memories which are "unmistakenbly", it feels like swearing in the church, or that I step on something sacred, therefore I do not do that in those cases which I term as "unmistakable".

    Were you brought up in a religion, with rules about never questioning? If so, might I suggest that you examine that?

    It's trendy in New Age circle to:

    1. Never feel guilty
    2. Never doubt

    I disagree with both. Remorse resulting from self-reflection is healthy, because it teaches us about our past mistakes, so we can learn from them. It's only when we hang on to the guilt after we have learned our lessons, and cannot forgive ourselves, that it becomes unhealthy. But to deny the opportunity for feeling guilt is to deny a natural function of the conscience.

    Likewise, doubt too is very misunderstood. There is nothing wrong with feeling doubt. You don't have to worry about an angry God striking you down, as the Bible said he would. We aren't expected to blindly believe any so-called 'authority' and that includes our very own self and our own guidance.

    In light of what we know about negative entities trying to influence us, I'd say doubt has a healthy function. If we blindly believe everything that pops into our minds, then we are making ourselves susceptible to negative influence and distortion!

    Thus, it's healthy to honor and respect the feelings of doubt when they arise, and actually take the time to explore those feelings, rather than suppressing them as though they were 'bad' or 'wrong'.

    Your feelings of doubt aren't wrong. They might even be your Higher Self's way of alerting you to some distorted information. It would behoove us to pay attention to feelings of doubt, because they lead to discernment. Discernment is important.

    (02-23-2012, 06:26 AM)Ankh Wrote: So I really did enjoy your view in this.

    Glad to hear that!

    (02-23-2012, 06:26 AM)Ankh Wrote: The memories that come up on the surface of the self, when trying to see/understand a particular difficulty involving another self, does not necessarily have to be "true" as in the sense that it has really happened. They can simply represent a vivid image involving strong emotions, which involves lessons you (general "you", not you personally) are trying to learn. I came to this understanding when reviewing my current life. I have this person in my life, who has hurted me in many ways, for many years, and on both physical and mental level. Why choose something like that for the self? The answer which resonates with me, is that perhaps I wasn't Jesus in my previous lives. Wink I could not understand, forgive and send love/light to people who have hurted me in previous incarnations, and/or understand/forgive/send love/light to the situation itself. So what happened is that the experiences that I've been through closed my heart. Now, when we die, if being of senior vibration, we may forgive and understand everything, but we may still think that we may need further experience/s, in order to find profound understanding and love for all the aspects of the Creation/Creator, especially those of traumatic experiences/incarnations. You were into this topic yourself a little bit, when mentioning war in your post to Gary. So it perhaps not only another self that you need to understand, but also the situation itself. And so we plan our incarnation very carefully, giving ourselves gifts and abilities to aid that understanding, but at the same time putting ourselves through a very traumatic experience, again.

    I also get 'dreamvisions' which are entirely symbolic in nature. They sometimes are past life memories, but usually they're not literal, but symbolic. I can get dreamvisions for other people just by hearing their voice. Sometimes my dreamvisions have been very accurate, in showing a snapshot of something that happened to another person, either in this life or in a past life. It doesn't really matter which. It also doesn't matter whether the event literally happened or not; what matters is the archetypal energies depicted in the vision, which are symbolic to the person.

    So in the case of my dreamvisions, I agree with you that they might not be literally true, but the message/lesson is what's important.

    However, my past life memories are different from dreamvisions. To say that a particular memory of a particular person didn't actually happen, would be akin to saying my memory of my best friend in high school didn't really happen. It happened. I remember. I remember my best friend and I recognize her.

    It is the same with these memories. There is a distinct difference between a vision and a memory.

    The effect it has on my consciousness is the same. They say that the brain doesn't know the difference between visualization and memory. But just try telling someone that their memory of their first kiss is just symbolic.

    (02-23-2012, 06:26 AM)Ankh Wrote: What I mean is that, it perhaps may have passed many, many years, like thousand/s, between the incarnation that we experienced that did not bring profound understanding, and finally finding of the right conditions and right circumstances to learn that particular lesson. And what I mean further, is that when we are so carefully planning that, we perhaps don't have the same entities around us anymore, or as they were back then.

    Linear time is irrelevant, in regards to past life memories. Why? Because the emotional charge and the karmic connection transcend linear time.

    Example: My memory of being in a dungeon was very vivid and held a strong emotional charge, because it was so traumatic. I died down there in agony. But it wasn't necessarily my most recent lifetime, in terms of linear time. I have had others in between. Yet, I remembered this one, because of the intensity of the experience. AND, because the characters in that particular drama were ready to resurface.


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    Past Lives - by Monica - 02-22-2012, 12:50 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Plenum - 02-22-2012, 01:08 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-22-2012, 01:18 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Oceania - 02-22-2012, 01:12 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by godwide_void - 02-22-2012, 01:23 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-22-2012, 01:28 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-22-2012, 02:06 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Plenum - 02-22-2012, 03:23 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by xlsander - 02-22-2012, 04:32 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by godwide_void - 02-22-2012, 02:24 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-22-2012, 02:54 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Conifer16 - 02-22-2012, 02:47 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Oceania - 02-22-2012, 05:04 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 02-22-2012, 06:25 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Oceania - 02-22-2012, 07:57 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 02-22-2012, 08:17 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by kycahi - 02-22-2012, 08:25 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Oceania - 02-22-2012, 09:15 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Oceania - 02-22-2012, 10:45 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by norral - 02-22-2012, 10:46 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Oceania - 02-22-2012, 10:48 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Brittany - 02-22-2012, 12:57 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-22-2012, 02:31 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 02-22-2012, 02:41 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-22-2012, 03:01 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Eddie - 02-22-2012, 03:35 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 02-22-2012, 06:12 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-22-2012, 06:18 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 02-23-2012, 06:26 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-23-2012, 07:22 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 02-23-2012, 09:36 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-25-2012, 02:41 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 02-25-2012, 09:59 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-25-2012, 12:36 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Diana - 02-23-2012, 02:21 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Eddie - 02-22-2012, 01:04 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Steppingfeet - 02-22-2012, 03:21 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 02-22-2012, 05:44 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Steppingfeet - 02-22-2012, 07:11 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-22-2012, 05:53 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-23-2012, 06:00 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Steppingfeet - 02-23-2012, 10:41 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-25-2012, 09:39 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 03-19-2012, 12:14 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Steppingfeet - 03-19-2012, 10:17 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 03-20-2012, 08:13 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Diana - 03-21-2012, 01:25 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 05-19-2012, 02:49 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by BrownEye - 02-25-2012, 12:33 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Diana - 02-25-2012, 12:37 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Conifer16 - 02-22-2012, 09:22 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by oguz - 02-23-2012, 08:21 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Richard - 02-23-2012, 03:06 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by @ndy - 02-23-2012, 04:36 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-23-2012, 11:17 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Steppingfeet - 02-23-2012, 11:21 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-23-2012, 11:54 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by norral - 02-25-2012, 04:01 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Shemaya - 02-25-2012, 09:40 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Shemaya - 02-25-2012, 10:30 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-25-2012, 11:09 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Tenet Nosce - 02-25-2012, 11:51 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Oceania - 02-26-2012, 05:43 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 02-26-2012, 06:31 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 02-27-2012, 02:02 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Plenum - 02-27-2012, 02:12 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 02-27-2012, 03:05 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Shin'Ar - 02-28-2012, 06:26 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by AnthroHeart - 03-13-2012, 01:43 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-28-2012, 06:33 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Shin'Ar - 02-28-2012, 06:44 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-28-2012, 06:48 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Shin'Ar - 02-28-2012, 07:02 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-28-2012, 07:06 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Shin'Ar - 02-28-2012, 07:31 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-28-2012, 07:32 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Shin'Ar - 02-28-2012, 07:37 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-28-2012, 07:39 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Oceania - 03-13-2012, 07:11 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 03-13-2012, 04:01 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 03-13-2012, 05:22 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Oceania - 03-13-2012, 04:37 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 03-13-2012, 04:50 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Wander-Man - 03-14-2012, 02:13 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by BrownEye - 03-25-2012, 01:45 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Cyan - 05-19-2012, 02:53 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by GreatSpirit - 05-19-2012, 10:57 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 05-20-2012, 03:03 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Observer - 05-20-2012, 02:34 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Spaced - 12-23-2012, 07:01 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 12-23-2012, 09:56 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Spaced - 12-24-2012, 12:50 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by BrownEye - 12-24-2012, 12:54 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Shin'Ar - 12-24-2012, 01:18 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 12-24-2012, 01:28 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by reeay - 12-23-2012, 07:51 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Parsons - 12-25-2012, 08:21 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Spaced - 12-25-2012, 08:25 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by xise - 12-25-2012, 10:12 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Brittany - 12-25-2012, 11:51 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Confused - 12-26-2012, 05:08 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Poet - 12-26-2012, 06:40 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 12-27-2012, 06:53 AM
    RE: Past lives - by Poet - 12-27-2012, 02:08 PM
    RE: Past lives - by Ankh - 12-27-2012, 09:00 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by BrownEye - 12-29-2012, 10:12 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Bring4th_Austin - 02-23-2013, 10:51 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Jeremy - 02-27-2013, 11:56 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Vasistha - 02-27-2013, 01:28 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Jeremy - 02-27-2013, 01:54 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Vasistha - 02-27-2013, 03:26 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 03-01-2013, 04:13 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Spaced - 02-27-2013, 02:39 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by greywolf - 02-27-2013, 12:55 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Adonai One - 02-27-2013, 04:13 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by reeay - 02-27-2013, 04:36 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by greywolf - 02-27-2013, 04:36 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by reeay - 02-27-2013, 04:47 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by greywolf - 02-27-2013, 04:59 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Parsons - 02-27-2013, 06:37 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by reeay - 02-27-2013, 08:00 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-27-2013, 06:43 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by kdsii - 02-28-2013, 03:04 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Unbound - 02-28-2013, 03:51 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ruth - 02-28-2013, 04:16 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Parsons - 02-27-2013, 08:13 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by reeay - 02-28-2013, 03:16 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Namaste - 03-09-2013, 07:52 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Plenum - 03-10-2013, 08:01 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ankh - 03-11-2013, 08:51 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Ashim - 04-20-2013, 07:51 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by BrownEye - 04-23-2013, 12:00 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by AnthroHeart - 04-23-2013, 12:07 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by BrownEye - 04-23-2013, 09:01 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Jamie35 - 04-23-2013, 07:21 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by BrownEye - 04-26-2013, 09:18 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Jeremy - 05-03-2013, 06:18 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Adonai One - 05-06-2013, 10:04 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Brittany - 11-04-2013, 07:08 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Plenum - 11-05-2013, 09:56 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Parsons - 11-04-2013, 10:33 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by BrownEye - 11-05-2013, 07:08 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Adonai One - 11-05-2013, 02:48 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Bat - 11-05-2013, 02:57 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by isis - 11-05-2013, 04:12 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by AnthroHeart - 11-05-2013, 05:41 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Monica - 10-11-2015, 09:32 PM
    RE: Past Lives - by Aion - 10-13-2015, 11:22 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by flofrog - 06-17-2018, 09:18 AM
    RE: Past Lives - by Cannon - 06-17-2018, 01:26 PM
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    RE: Who were you in your previous incarnation? - by bosphorus - 02-22-2013, 05:47 PM
    RE: Who were you in your previous incarnation? - by Arda - 02-22-2013, 05:52 PM
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