12-02-2009, 12:17 PM
(12-02-2009, 11:32 AM)transiten Wrote: Did you watch the video that C-Jean provided with the "angry scientist" mentionning among other things "The Gulff war syndrome" that affected the soldiers after the war? I would be very interested in you commenting him in the same way you answered monicas post; dividing every statement and questionning them.Please add the points you would like me to specifically answer. I don't have the time to summarize, itemize and then answer his points. But I will answer anything that has your specific interest.
In general. I don't disagree with the man. I think we only disagree on the issue whether vaccines do in fact work. He claims he can find no evidence. But that's absolutely not true. He claims there are too many scientists with conflicts of interests. But that's also not true. Vaccination isn't invented the last 50 years (the time the CDC was active). It's been understood for about 200 years now.
It's not the government telling us that vaccines work. It's 200 years of experience with vaccines that tells us it works.
Are they dangerous and damaging? Yes they probably are, but if the alternative is dangerous and damaging as well that might be worth it. Are there conflicts of interest and hidden agendas? Count on it. Were the gulf war soldiers vaccinated with a very damaging agent? Quite likely, something is going on there, like Null says, it's statistically impossible that these are just random events.
I'm not claiming there is a clear sky. I am just absolutely convinced that vaccination for serious diseases like polio or small pox is a very good idea.
Vaccinating people against a mild flu is irresponsible and dangerous unless of course these people are at risk of dying of a minor flu.
Quote: I don't have the whole picture myself so it's rather difficult to have any absolute opinion here. Are you also aware of the conspiracytheory that the vaccinesyringes contain nanochips?
I am aware of this. And let me be clear that I'm only commenting on the normal scientifically known effects of vaccination... If there is nano tech added then the rules change of course, but such theories would need to be backed up.. I don't really understand the idea how chipping the population would benefit the controllers. We're already practically chipped, maybe we don't have a chip in the body. But we can be traced through various other techniques.
Other than that... If the government wanted to nano chip the population, vaccination would be how they'd do it.