(11-30-2009, 05:12 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Lets check the facts people...
Vaccines have been proven to work again and again... Open pubmed... www.pubmed.com, search for "vaccine efficacy" and you get pages of research indicating the effect. The principle is sound and the principle works..
I would definitely, most emphatically, and yet respectfully disagree with you on this, dear friend! :-/
What are facts? Depends on whom you ask!
I guess anything could be serious - even the flu - for certain people under certain conditions. That's why I think our own personal guidance should be taken into account.
I haven't kept up with all the newer vaccines, since my son is now 21. I definitely think we should follow our own guidance not let the docs pressure us. I got bitten by a dog in the face about 10 years ago and the people in the emergency room were so pushy, and because the would went thru my lip, they pressured me and used fear tactics about having to reopen the wound later due to infection and tearing up my face, that I let them talk me into a DT shot...much to my regret later! I felt like I had a rock in my arm for years afterwards, and my health declined (not sure if there was a connection or not). I know they thought they were doing the right thing, but, looking back, I can't believe I let them coerce me out of fear! I was in a vulnerable position and succumbed to the fear tactics.
Deciding whether to vaccinate or not was the most difficult decision I ever made while parenting. I agonized over this decision! When I was pregnant, I thought anyone who didn't vaccinate was guilty of child abuse! But, thankfully, a friend suggested I research the issue, and I am so glad I did! I was stunned at what I found! Something I had never questioned turned out to be a really huge issue. I won't even say 'controversial' because I truly do believe that, once adequate research has been done, it ceases to be a controversy for that person. At least that was my conclusion!
I researched the issue at length, and finally decided that I was more scared of the vaccines than of the illness! The risk was just not worth it. With the only exception being tetanus. That was the ONLY one that showed clear impact on the illness, with minimal risks. All the others showed questionable benefit, with very real risks.
I read a lot of bad stuff on whooping cough, diphtheria, etc. Also whenever there's been a measles outbreak, most of the kids were vaccinated, so the vaccine didn't even protect them. The video posted below is a real eye-opener!
20 years ago all I had was books, but I remember reading a book that showed the graph of polio and other diseases, and they were already declining (as per normal cycles of diseases) BEFORE the vaccines were introduced! But only a small portion of the graph was shown by the CDC, leaving out the decline...ie. as the saying goes "Figures don't lie but liars figure."
Another major factor in my decision was whether there were natural alternatives. I found homeopathic, herbal, and other alternative treatments for all the diseases I researched EXCEPT tetanus! Even naturopathic/homeopathic docs said to go to a hospital in case of tetanus, and even then the treatment was very serious and expensive, and the person could still die! Add to that, the fact that staying healthy with a strong immune system offered very little protection...and it could happen from only a scratch which might not even be noticed...all those factors put together made tetanus much more scary than the vaccine, and the vaccine offered real protection because even the natural anti-vaccine docs admit that in the case of tetanus, the decline was clearly from the vaccine.
More:
Statistics...Govt. data showing that mortality from various infectious diseases in various countries had already declined before introduction of vaccines...animal proteins being injected directly into bloodstream and its effect on the immune system...'Atypical Measles' etc.
Vaccination - The Hidden Truth (parts 1 - 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC20RVbWc-E
(If the links don't work, do a youtube search fro Vaccination - The Hidden Truth)
See also: CDC chief admits connection between autism & vaccines...CDC estimates 1 in 50 kids has this predisposition - that's a 2% risk for a life-long neurological impairment!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh-nkD5LS...re=related
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Did you know ...
... infectious diseases were over 90% resolved by the time vaccines came onto the market?
...there are now 33 vaccines that are mandated by the time your child is 6 years old? and 40 by age 16?
...that before 1991 there was no system in place for reporting adverse vaccine reactions whatsoever?
...that only one country in Europe still has mandated DPT shots, whereas the US still requires 4 separate doses?
... 43% of Gulf War veterans experienced side effects to vaccines?
... 80,000 Gulf War vets have permanent medical conditions as a result of vaccinations?
... that vaccination is not immunization?
... that Hepatitis B vaccine was outlawed in France after 15,000 citizens filed a class action suit against the government?
...that vaccines do not have to be proven safe and effective in order to be added to the list of mandated shots for American children?
...the the mercury in most vaccines is dozens of times in excess of EPA safe levels?
... that there are many new vaccines in the pipeline trying to get FDA approval so they can be tacked onto the mandated schedule?
... that vaccination is a multi-billion dollar industry in the US?
... that the US Congress has recently discovered rampant conflict of interest between the FDA and the vaccine manufacturers?
... that in the past 20 years, autism has gone from being almost completely unknown to an epidemic that now affects as many as one in every 150 American children?
... that the drug companies are not required to prove that vaccines will not cause cancer, and that no testing for carcinogenicity is even done before a vaccine is approved?
... that all states but two have very simple exemption forms by which a parent can choose to forego all vaccines for the child?
http://www.greaterthings.com/News/daily/...tion_link/
http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/about.html
Regarding the ingredients in vaccines:
1) There is no safe level for some of these poisons, such as formaldehyde and mercury, even if one of them was consumed or injected on its own.
2) Even if the quantity of any given ingredient was within a safe level, remember that a large number of these are being taken in all at once, which can lead to the accumulative toxicity being much higher.
3) Poisons such as formaldehyde and mercury are well known to have a sensitising effect on the body, i.e. they cause increased susceptibility to any foreign substance that it might encounter at the same time or in the future.
4) Even the manufacturers admit to a large list of adverse effects of vaccines, including even death.
The resultant damage, including brain damage, from these toxins can vary from mild enough not to be apparent, through to severe, in some cases death. You cannot inject a living being with these poisons and expect there to be no adverse effect at all. What varies, and varies greatly, is merely the degree of damage. The reason for the large variation in this degree of damage include:
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great genetic variations in recipients, affecting susceptibility in general and susceptibility to specific vaccines
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variations within one recipient from one time to another (due to biorhythms, other work the immune system is doing already fighting other infections, how many vaccines have already been given, etc), and
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variations between vaccine batches - there is an acknowledged weakness in the area of controlling the levels of toxins in vaccines, resulting in some batches being labeled "hot lots". (Sadly even this identification does not necessarily result in recalls, but rather in distributing the "hot lot" as broadly as possible, as revealed in a leaked letter from a pharmaceutical company.)
For chemical profiles and definitions, visit http://www.scorecard.org/.
Sources: EDF (Environmental Defense Fund) & MME (Mosby's Medical Encyclopaedia)
I also suggest checking out mercola.com on vaccinations:
http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/links.htm
I do NOT agree with Dr. Mercola on everything...for example he is very biased against vegetarianism...but he does a good job of exposing the corruption in the medical industry and has a HUGE library on well-documented vaccine info!
...also do a search for homeopathy and vaccinations.