11-30-2009, 05:12 PM
Lets check the facts people...
Vaccines have been proven to work again and again... Open pubmed... www.pubmed.com, search for "vaccine efficacy" and you get pages of research indicating the effect. The principle is sound and the principle works..
You challenged me to find one example.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5718a5.htm
The amount of cases of measles in the USA has dropped from 750.000 to fewer than 100 in the last few years directly due to vaccination.
However, this doesn't mean it's not damaging in other ways. And I don't believe vaccines are without risk.
Now I appreciate the full ingredient list. But instead of just panicking, lets look at it in detail.. And then we can panic with the confidence of understanding why we panic
aluminum phosphate aka baking powder, it's in your food.
ammonium sulfate used mostly in fertilizers, it's in your food.
amphotericin B This is nasty stuff, it's a fungicide. It's potentially lethal in larger doses and has nasty but short term side effects.
animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
dog kidney, monkey kidney,
chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
calf (bovine) serum If you ever ate pig or an omelet, you received this in much larger doses.
betapropiolactone is suspected to be a factor in cancers.
fetal bovine serum This is just bio matter. Nothing weird about it, they use it to grow the virus and remainders of it end up in the vaccine.
formaldehyde it's basically a toxin used to kill bacteria and cells, to keep the vaccine clear of infections. However, it's not healthy for humans either. In large doses it can cause allergies, and cancers.
formalin is another name for a treated formaldehyde. The only other ingredients are water and methanol which is alcohol, large doses are drunk for example in Russia and can lead to blindness. The dose in a vaccine offcourse won't even get you drunk let alone damage you.
gelatinAlso in your food.
glycerol In soaps and food.
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) Sounds bad and maybe it is but it's not poison.
hydrolized gelatin It's in your food.
monosodium glutamate (MSG)Used in foods to make them taste better. They say it's a reason for obesity.
neomycin it's another antibiotic also used in creams and lotions.
neomycin sulfateA nasty version that can act as a toxin to humans.
phenol20red indicatorIt's a remainder of the work on the virus. I can't find any detrimental effects.
phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)Kills bacteria and is often used in desinfectant soaps and lotions.
potassium diphosphate It's a food additive. It's considered safe.
potassium monophosphateAlso a food additive.
polymyxin BAn anti biotic, used in medical salves.
polysorbate 20 Used in soaps and detergents.
polysorbate 80Often used in food.
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein The by product of milk being broken down with acids. Happens in the body after ingesting milk.
residual MRC5 proteins These are the cells the virus was cultivated with. They are human cells the remainder of an abortion in 1966 that have been cultivated since...
sorbitol an artificial sweetener.
sucrose aka table sugar
thimerosal (mercury)tri(n)butylphosphat e, This is the current candidate for controversy, some have linked this to autism, but research in the matter failed to back this up with evidence. Mercury itself is linked with neurological problems. But we use mercury in dental work, large quantities have been dumped in the oceans or blown into the air and we pretty much ingest more of it every time we eat fish. So why is it the vaccine and not last friday's fish & chips?
VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
washed sheep red blood cells These two are the same as the human cells. It's biological tissue and not dangerous in itself.
Thiomersal is a clear point of controversy, and some of the other antibacterial and anti fungal agents can't be healthy either. I see no immediate reason to be alarmed about the vaccine because of this list though. You can pretty much discard the food additives. And mercury will damage you with or without vaccines. At least with a vaccine you know you'll be killed by mercury and not by the flu. I know.. It's depressing...
There were massive voluntary vaccinations of children and pregnant women where I am in the last few weeks. I haven't seen any reports of deaths or serious problems. If they exist they are rare.
The ingredients of this list will either cause autism or immediate violent responses. The clear responses haven't occurred. We can't check for autism yet. But I see no immediate reason to believe that connection. And really why would they want to give the world autism? Most of the autistic are hardly recognizable as such by non professionals. Some of you must have some autistic traits. And are probably putting them to good use. I know I am. ( I looked up the ingredients above, right?
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My current hypothesis just like airwaves, is not as nasty as the toxic vaccine hypothesis. But it is still nasty. After the economic crash last year. Large pharmaceuticals were among the biggest victims financially. How do you fix this as a proactive group of companies with major influence in all the worlds major health institutions? Simple, you exaggerate the next disease around the corner that you can make a story about. And get the health institutions to sing along. Then you sell major medicine and vaccines. And you get to retain your multi million dollar bonuses for that year.
If this is what is going on then it's theft... We're being robbed right after we've lost a lot of our money supplies already. I think however that fortunately it's not murder. It's an actual vaccine with the usual risks associated with vaccines against a random but statistically speaking harmless flu.
I won't take a vaccine, against this flu because there is no need for it. I don't think I will die if I take it. But I will be taking a small and not required risk with my health. Those in risk groups might come to different conclusions though. I'd also like an official and open inquiry after why on earth anyone ever thought differently. I want this to be treated as a case of potential fraud. Because that's what it looks like to me.
Potentially we can follow up with accusations of taking unnecessary risks with the worlds health by needlessly pushing an insufficiently tested vaccine. It's probably as safe as every other flu vaccine so far. And they know that's not a guarantee so they want the customers to surrender their rights to sue them in case of side effects...
In the days since the first flu "outbreaks" 2.7 million have died of aids, millions more have been infected. I'm not even talking about cardio vascular issues or cancer. And yet we're talking about a flu.
http://i.imgur.com/rQj3R.jpg
I know I don't follow the preferred fear porn philosophy. I don't think the negative elite are as powerful as is often suggested. I see them scrambling to maintain the status quo of their worlds. Suddenly their assets vaporized. They want to reestablish their de-facto power. And the rest of us is just being gullible, trusting in the outside authority, but learning in the process that that's a bad idea.
Vaccines have been proven to work again and again... Open pubmed... www.pubmed.com, search for "vaccine efficacy" and you get pages of research indicating the effect. The principle is sound and the principle works..
You challenged me to find one example.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5718a5.htm
The amount of cases of measles in the USA has dropped from 750.000 to fewer than 100 in the last few years directly due to vaccination.
However, this doesn't mean it's not damaging in other ways. And I don't believe vaccines are without risk.
Now I appreciate the full ingredient list. But instead of just panicking, lets look at it in detail.. And then we can panic with the confidence of understanding why we panic
aluminum phosphate aka baking powder, it's in your food.
ammonium sulfate used mostly in fertilizers, it's in your food.
amphotericin B This is nasty stuff, it's a fungicide. It's potentially lethal in larger doses and has nasty but short term side effects.
animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
dog kidney, monkey kidney,
chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
calf (bovine) serum If you ever ate pig or an omelet, you received this in much larger doses.
betapropiolactone is suspected to be a factor in cancers.
fetal bovine serum This is just bio matter. Nothing weird about it, they use it to grow the virus and remainders of it end up in the vaccine.
formaldehyde it's basically a toxin used to kill bacteria and cells, to keep the vaccine clear of infections. However, it's not healthy for humans either. In large doses it can cause allergies, and cancers.
formalin is another name for a treated formaldehyde. The only other ingredients are water and methanol which is alcohol, large doses are drunk for example in Russia and can lead to blindness. The dose in a vaccine offcourse won't even get you drunk let alone damage you.
gelatinAlso in your food.
glycerol In soaps and food.
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) Sounds bad and maybe it is but it's not poison.
hydrolized gelatin It's in your food.
monosodium glutamate (MSG)Used in foods to make them taste better. They say it's a reason for obesity.
neomycin it's another antibiotic also used in creams and lotions.
neomycin sulfateA nasty version that can act as a toxin to humans.
phenol20red indicatorIt's a remainder of the work on the virus. I can't find any detrimental effects.
phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)Kills bacteria and is often used in desinfectant soaps and lotions.
potassium diphosphate It's a food additive. It's considered safe.
potassium monophosphateAlso a food additive.
polymyxin BAn anti biotic, used in medical salves.
polysorbate 20 Used in soaps and detergents.
polysorbate 80Often used in food.
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein The by product of milk being broken down with acids. Happens in the body after ingesting milk.
residual MRC5 proteins These are the cells the virus was cultivated with. They are human cells the remainder of an abortion in 1966 that have been cultivated since...
sorbitol an artificial sweetener.
sucrose aka table sugar
thimerosal (mercury)tri(n)butylphosphat e, This is the current candidate for controversy, some have linked this to autism, but research in the matter failed to back this up with evidence. Mercury itself is linked with neurological problems. But we use mercury in dental work, large quantities have been dumped in the oceans or blown into the air and we pretty much ingest more of it every time we eat fish. So why is it the vaccine and not last friday's fish & chips?
VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
washed sheep red blood cells These two are the same as the human cells. It's biological tissue and not dangerous in itself.
Thiomersal is a clear point of controversy, and some of the other antibacterial and anti fungal agents can't be healthy either. I see no immediate reason to be alarmed about the vaccine because of this list though. You can pretty much discard the food additives. And mercury will damage you with or without vaccines. At least with a vaccine you know you'll be killed by mercury and not by the flu. I know.. It's depressing...
There were massive voluntary vaccinations of children and pregnant women where I am in the last few weeks. I haven't seen any reports of deaths or serious problems. If they exist they are rare.
The ingredients of this list will either cause autism or immediate violent responses. The clear responses haven't occurred. We can't check for autism yet. But I see no immediate reason to believe that connection. And really why would they want to give the world autism? Most of the autistic are hardly recognizable as such by non professionals. Some of you must have some autistic traits. And are probably putting them to good use. I know I am. ( I looked up the ingredients above, right?
)My current hypothesis just like airwaves, is not as nasty as the toxic vaccine hypothesis. But it is still nasty. After the economic crash last year. Large pharmaceuticals were among the biggest victims financially. How do you fix this as a proactive group of companies with major influence in all the worlds major health institutions? Simple, you exaggerate the next disease around the corner that you can make a story about. And get the health institutions to sing along. Then you sell major medicine and vaccines. And you get to retain your multi million dollar bonuses for that year.
If this is what is going on then it's theft... We're being robbed right after we've lost a lot of our money supplies already. I think however that fortunately it's not murder. It's an actual vaccine with the usual risks associated with vaccines against a random but statistically speaking harmless flu.
I won't take a vaccine, against this flu because there is no need for it. I don't think I will die if I take it. But I will be taking a small and not required risk with my health. Those in risk groups might come to different conclusions though. I'd also like an official and open inquiry after why on earth anyone ever thought differently. I want this to be treated as a case of potential fraud. Because that's what it looks like to me.
Potentially we can follow up with accusations of taking unnecessary risks with the worlds health by needlessly pushing an insufficiently tested vaccine. It's probably as safe as every other flu vaccine so far. And they know that's not a guarantee so they want the customers to surrender their rights to sue them in case of side effects...
In the days since the first flu "outbreaks" 2.7 million have died of aids, millions more have been infected. I'm not even talking about cardio vascular issues or cancer. And yet we're talking about a flu.
http://i.imgur.com/rQj3R.jpg
I know I don't follow the preferred fear porn philosophy. I don't think the negative elite are as powerful as is often suggested. I see them scrambling to maintain the status quo of their worlds. Suddenly their assets vaporized. They want to reestablish their de-facto power. And the rest of us is just being gullible, trusting in the outside authority, but learning in the process that that's a bad idea.