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    Thread: What is the value of faith?


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    01-31-2012, 05:16 PM (This post was last modified: 01-31-2012, 05:40 PM by Sacred Fool.)
    (01-31-2012, 09:40 AM)zenmaster Wrote: If faith is trust, then the question of 'should' or 'shouldn't' isn't really an option.

    I'm not sure I understand why you offer this. Is not free will in play here?

    Just because I believe something doesn't mean that I can get it together to act on it. (Trust me.)
    (01-31-2012, 01:14 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: This to me suggests that faith is a consciousness which transcends the ordinary mind. In so doing, it refuses to deal with the illusion on the illusion’s own terms, and the illusion’s own internal logic.

    Could it be a poise of consciousness which encompasses (rather than transcends) a variety of levels of consciousness?

    (01-31-2012, 01:14 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: How does simply resting in faith achieve this? ..this faith is a knowing which allows the entity to release fear, release desire, and release the need to control. It is these illusory energies (fear, desire, control) that, in my opinion, constitute the opaque, separate entity. So in releasing these qualities of fear, desire, and control, you are releasing the separate individual in the embrace of who you already are.

    Quote:Q’uo says: “To the Creator, you are always in paradise, but each of you is in an illusion which decries the apparent inaccuracy of our previous statement, and it is only by faith that you may feel that love, that acceptance, that forgiveness and that support. It is only by faith that you may continue standing when you feel that life has cut you off at the knees. It is only by faith that you can stay alive when you feel that your life is not worth the living.”

    For my money (or, "For my energy expenditure"), this gets to the heart of the value of faith. It's that inner knowing that trumps apparent reality and it's the courage to stand up in that knowing that conduces to increase of polarity.

    But what distinguishes this inner knowing from psychosis or a simpler form of self-delusion?

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    What is the value of faith? - by Lavazza - 01-07-2012, 02:06 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-07-2012, 02:17 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-07-2012, 03:27 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by kycahi - 01-07-2012, 04:44 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Shin'Ar - 01-07-2012, 10:30 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-07-2012, 01:06 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Shin'Ar - 01-07-2012, 04:25 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Bring4th_Austin - 01-07-2012, 05:18 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-07-2012, 05:47 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Diana - 01-20-2012, 01:35 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-20-2012, 09:41 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by abstrktion - 02-02-2012, 12:25 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Namaste - 01-07-2012, 11:47 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-07-2012, 01:18 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-07-2012, 02:02 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-07-2012, 02:32 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-07-2012, 02:41 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Ens Entium - 01-07-2012, 04:25 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by native - 01-07-2012, 04:58 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Shin'Ar - 01-07-2012, 04:28 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by cosmiclady - 01-07-2012, 09:16 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Shin'Ar - 01-07-2012, 10:32 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-08-2012, 03:40 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by βαθμιαίος - 01-08-2012, 10:56 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Ankh - 01-08-2012, 07:17 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by βαθμιαίος - 01-09-2012, 10:31 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-10-2012, 12:31 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Shin'Ar - 01-08-2012, 07:33 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Ankh - 01-08-2012, 08:29 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Lavazza - 01-11-2012, 01:07 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Shin'Ar - 01-08-2012, 09:51 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Namaste - 01-09-2012, 07:48 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Ankh - 01-09-2012, 05:10 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Ankh - 01-10-2012, 05:02 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-10-2012, 08:22 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Ankh - 01-11-2012, 11:16 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Tenet Nosce - 01-16-2012, 10:50 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by AnthroHeart - 01-11-2012, 12:48 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Aureus - 01-20-2012, 06:49 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Plenum - 01-20-2012, 08:30 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Lavazza - 01-20-2012, 12:33 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by native - 01-20-2012, 11:13 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-21-2012, 03:00 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by native - 01-21-2012, 12:05 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Diana - 01-21-2012, 01:21 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Plenum - 01-21-2012, 02:53 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-21-2012, 02:07 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by kycahi - 01-22-2012, 03:15 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by native - 01-22-2012, 03:32 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by turtledude23 - 01-23-2012, 02:25 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Ankh - 01-23-2012, 12:31 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by native - 01-23-2012, 10:28 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by godwide_void - 01-23-2012, 11:41 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by apeiron - 01-24-2012, 11:00 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-24-2012, 11:22 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Dinko - 01-26-2012, 01:54 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Steppingfeet - 01-26-2012, 08:03 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Sacred Fool - 01-31-2012, 05:47 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-31-2012, 09:40 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Sacred Fool - 01-31-2012, 05:16 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by zenmaster - 01-31-2012, 10:46 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Steppingfeet - 02-07-2012, 01:12 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Ankh - 02-07-2012, 06:18 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Steppingfeet - 01-31-2012, 01:14 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Ashim - 02-07-2012, 06:58 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Steppingfeet - 02-09-2012, 01:20 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Sacred Fool - 02-13-2012, 02:51 AM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Steppingfeet - 02-13-2012, 10:05 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by ansell - 02-18-2012, 03:28 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by Sacred Fool - 02-18-2012, 03:37 PM
    RE: What is the value of faith? - by ansell - 02-18-2012, 03:37 PM

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