01-09-2012, 11:09 AM
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I have not read this thread in detail. However, I just came across a quote from the Aaron/Q'uo Dialogues that I felt might be useful to those reading this thread:
The Aaron/Q’uo Dialogues, Session 19
25 Sep 93
Here is another quote I found in the Deep Spring Archives:
18 Dec 91
I don't know if you hold the record or not... but if I may take a slight jab at your illusory ego... I doubt you are quite as clever as you may think having found the "Loophole". I would perceive it as just a cosmic form of alchemy... distillation, condensation, distillation, condensation... yet one cannot fully enjoy the fruits of their labor until the alchemical apparatus is discarded and the Philosopher's Stone retrieved, yes? Plus, I can see how this might become boring after a few aeons.
According to my fallible understanding, part of the reason 6D entities may choose to incarnate in a 3D environment is to build upon the qualities of "love and faith" which can be used to springboard oneself into the next octave. It would appear that "wisdom and compassion" can result in a certain kind of inertia in sixth density which can only be balanced by the strong qualities of "love and faith" which are teach/learned in third density.
As far as memory and identity go, a ponderance: What is the source of these?
The Aaron/Q’uo Dialogues, Session 19
25 Sep 93
Aaron Wrote:There is no such thing as absolute evil. There are those beings who are negatively polarized in service to self and act in love for that self. The selfishness of that motivation, let us say the self-centeredness of that motivation, may cause immense suffering for others, yet one must still acknowledge that this being is motivated by some form of love, however distorted that love may be. Such a being may indeed even graduate from the earth plane, carrying that negative distortion; but it cannot return to the One ultimately, cannot move through the higher densities beyond sixth density with that negative distortion. It becomes a dead end. So, it may carry its negative distortion to a very high level, but eventually it must change its polarity to proceed.
We have transcripts available that detail this process of reversal of polarity. Should that interest any of you, they can be found and Barbara can provide, so I will not speak of it in depth.[1]
The difference in path, then, seems to be that the path of service to others speaks of awareness of the suffering of all beings and the deeply heartfelt desire to alleviate suffering. The path of service to self ignores that suffering because it accentuates the separate self. It cannot ultimately carry one back to full unity with the Creator because there is still the delusion of separation. It is therefore a truly more difficult path. Can one begin to have compassion for beings who are set on that path rather than fear and hatred of them? Their negative distortion causes as much pain to them as to others.
Having made the decision to live one’s life in service to others, one is constantly confronted by that fear in oneself which leads to grasping and aversion to self-service. Service to others and service to self are not mutually exclusive. This is a misunderstanding. Let us return to that imaginary being with the apple, whom we introduced last night. The apple is offered, seeing the child’s hunger. But what if it were the only food that the apple holder had, and that apple holder had also not eaten for several days? Is that thought, “I also am hungry,” an evil thought? We chop the apple in half and trust that further sustenance will be offered to each.
The self is also an other. You are part of this great scheme of things. To simply become a martyr and offer yourself with no respect for the needs of the self is to make needless sacrifice. Indeed, one must begin to respect the needs of the self while distinguishing which needs grow out of love and healthy respect, and which grow out of fear. That being who has had a full breakfast and the promise of a full lunch has no need to take half the apple. Can you hear the voice of fear that says, “What if I need it?” and simply note, “This is old mind speaking”? “In this present moment, I am not hungry and this child is hungry. In this present moment, I have no need of this food. I can give it freely.” But mind goes back to those past experiences of hunger or deprivation of any sort, and that old-mind consciousness wants to hoard because of the very basic human fear, “Will my needs be met?”
The person who lives its life in awareness will notice the arising of such thoughts and be able to identify what is the bare perception of this moment and what is old-mind habit. That same being, noticing that the desire to hold on to the apple is old-mind habit, that there is no present hunger or need—that same being will not scorn itself because that habitual reaction has arisen. It will see that reaction not as its own greed to be hated but as human fear which must be touched with compassion. So, it notices the old-mind habit arising in itself. It notices its movement toward contempt for that habit and it asks itself also to have compassion for the human with those fears, thus allowing space for it all to float. It then finds freedom to come back to the bare perception, to recognize in this moment, “There’s no hunger. I can give this.”
By bringing this level of awareness to each arising thought, emotion, and sensation, one begins to move away from the boundaries of old-mind habit, to live one’s life in the present, in the now. It is only in this moment that one can live with love and wisdom.
What I want you to see here is that the choice of service to self/service to others is not clear-cut: “I’m generous!” or, “I’m selfish!” Rather, it is built on staying in this moment with a deep respect for all beings, knowing oneself to be part of this linked chain of beings, heart open to the needs of all, seeing fear as it arises and making the conscious effort not to live by the dictates of fear.
How to walk a spiritual path? This, to me, is the essence of it: to notice each dialogue with fear and have the courage to remove oneself from that dialogue, not hating one’s fear, but also not owning one’s fear nor being controlled by it. It takes much courage. As you work with this, you come to an intersection. You find that there is a, what I call, “horizontal practice of relative reality,” living one’s life skillfully and lovingly, moment by moment, but that there is an illusory self who is doing that skillful, loving living.
There is also a “vertical practice” which cuts through the illusion of self. Q’uo just spoke to you of this. When it is next my turn to speak I will elaborate on it, but first I would like to pass the microphone back to Q’uo, who would like to speak to us to elaborate on some of what I have just spoken of. That is all.
[1] Deep Spring Center for Meditation and Spiritual Inquiry, 3003 Washtenaw Avenue, Suite 2, Ann Arbor, MI 48104; www.deepspring.org/archives.
Here is another quote I found in the Deep Spring Archives:
18 Dec 91
Aaron Wrote:I am talking here about beings ... Let's go back to this question of density again. In fourth and fifth density, there are still the vestiges of an emotional body. In sixth density ... I use the term "density" here as a description of the density of the energy, how much shadow and how much clarity there is in it. Sixth density is the level of the higher self: there's no more emotional body at all. And yet, there is still a self; there is still personal awareness and memory. Seventh density is the beginning of moving beyond the self. The mental body also begins to fall away. There must be a tool of "self" in order to teach others. Pure awareness cannot manipulate that awareness so as to teach. The being who is capable of moving into seventh and then into eighth density, manifesting its energy as the pure spirit body returned to the awareness of full union with God-the being ready for seventh density who elects to stay in sixth density so that it can function as a teacher for others is doing what Jesus or the Buddha did.
Buddhism has a term for such beings. There is a word, "Bodhisattva." This is one who recognizes the suffering in the universe and is willing to come back to incarnation over and over again, rather than finding its own freedom ... coming back to serve others. That's one level-to be willing to return to third density. Another form of Bodhisattva is one willing to remain in sixth density.
That spirit that became Jesus was a sixth density being at the time that it agreed to come back. It was a sixth density being fully ready to move into eighth density, and held itself in sixth density only because of its desire and willingness to serve others. It knew that it would progress beyond sixth density when its work was done, but that it needed that mental body in order to continue its service. Following that final incarnation, the Buddha moved to that same level, and that being could also have progressed, but chose not to do so, but remained for some time to teach.
There are many beings who are capable of moving into seventh and eighth densities, and who yet remain at sixth density. Some of those beings moved to sixth density through third and fourth and fifth density, not quickly as the Buddha did. So, perhaps, there was nothing that remarkable about them on Earth except that they became ready to graduate, as many beings do, into fourth density ... that there was no more karmic need to incarnate. They became more remarkable when they reached this level of sixth density and were ready to progress into seventh density and said, "No, I am willing to remain with this to serve." In your terminology, such beings are thought of as angels. That is the closest definition for the word "angel" that I can offer: a being of sixth density that does not progress of its own free will, but stays in sixth density to be of service to others.
(12-23-2011, 07:41 PM)Tyler Durden Maybe Wrote: I'd like to imagine that I've switched Polarities a number of times. In fact, I'd like to think that I'm going for the All Time Creation Wide Record of Polarity Switching as the "Loophole" to never having to Graduate to 7D. The whole concept of 7th Density does not offer anything appealing to me in any way. RA says this of 7d: "At the seventh level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all." That's not cool, I want a memory, I want an identity, I want a future. Therefore I'd like to think I have found and am using this "Loophole", that as long as I keep switching Polarities and Wandering Back and starting all over again, 7D Graduation is never attained.
I don't know if you hold the record or not... but if I may take a slight jab at your illusory ego... I doubt you are quite as clever as you may think having found the "Loophole". I would perceive it as just a cosmic form of alchemy... distillation, condensation, distillation, condensation... yet one cannot fully enjoy the fruits of their labor until the alchemical apparatus is discarded and the Philosopher's Stone retrieved, yes? Plus, I can see how this might become boring after a few aeons.
According to my fallible understanding, part of the reason 6D entities may choose to incarnate in a 3D environment is to build upon the qualities of "love and faith" which can be used to springboard oneself into the next octave. It would appear that "wisdom and compassion" can result in a certain kind of inertia in sixth density which can only be balanced by the strong qualities of "love and faith" which are teach/learned in third density.
As far as memory and identity go, a ponderance: What is the source of these?