(01-07-2012, 10:32 PM)ShinAr Wrote: I do not understand how faith can be a realization. Realization is the revelation of reality. It is awareness of a truth.Faith is a reality.
(01-07-2012, 10:32 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Once ones becomes aware of a truth there is no need to have faith that it is true. Knowledge is not faith.Knowledge is not faith.
(01-07-2012, 10:32 PM)ShinAr Wrote: To be faithful to something is to be committed and devoted to it. One can be faithful to seeking after truth. One can be faithful to following a particular path.Different meaning, like loyalty and honesty have different meanings.
(01-07-2012, 10:32 PM)ShinAr Wrote: But one cannot have faith in something that he does not know to be true without hope that it might be true.Reality unfolds according to faith, regardless of hope, of expectation, of attachment.
(01-07-2012, 10:32 PM)ShinAr Wrote: I do not suggest that faith is not honorable. It has great value. I am saying that faith is not what one has in something they already know exists as truth. that is not faith, it is knowledge.knowledge and faith are not and can not be mutually exclusive.
(01-07-2012, 10:32 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Faith is trusting that if we follow the left hand path that we will be fulfilling our divine design.Faith has nothing to do with handedness, which is a secondary bias.
(01-07-2012, 10:32 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Faith is believing that one day we shall be free from the darkness of reincarnation.No, it's not. That's some kind of knowledge structure with beliefs and expectations.
(01-07-2012, 10:32 PM)ShinAr Wrote: These things we are becoming aware of as we come to understand our divine nature, but until we actually achieve that transformation, we learn through faith. Those already ascended do not have faith in transcendence, they know it.We learn through our built in faculties - experience, intuition, judgement, the senses, etc (i.e. the body/mind combo). Faith is primary to that, what exists without expectation or belief, whether we learn or not.