01-07-2012, 04:25 PM
It seems that faith, like other 'activities' of the self, looks different depending on how closely centred your perspective is around the 'apex' perspective of the (co-)Creator. That perspective, seeing the present as having creative potential- in the direction of further realisation of unity (love). Seems to boil down to how much you acquaint yourself with, oneness or 'the present'.
To have a go at a definition.. I would say that faith is creating and maintaining for yourself a 'knowing' of 'something more' or 'all is well'. Less locally, faith would be that 'knowing' being based on the Original Thought- that original thought residing with infinity/unity there is wholeness/wellness and infinite potential/promise, [? these being the 'items' of faith?].
So these 'items' of faith find form in ideas of continuance past 'death' and such, [? and gradually through using the space for realising that there's something beyond experience and then to create and be more than the sum of your experiences, the items of faith reside more and more with the self ?], that 'something more' eventually being fully found in the present and oneself.
In this way, one can see how separation in world view resulting in splitting of agency (through moving out of responsibility), would mean that faith would be put in external agencies (for wholeness/wellness and potential/promise), like 'ancestors', 'spirits', 'a guy in the clouds god', etc..
So I semi-imagine for a realised co-Creator, faith to be an approach to 'the present' (disposition outside proof/knowing of there being access to potential and wholeness) and as a base for 'the reaching' or your willingness to make something 'more' of it. In third density, that 'more' would be love; again in the integrating and creative aspects.
The perspective of the above is how I view the Ra Q/A 82.29- the 'white light of the infinite creator being that which either overwhelms the co-creatorship of the third density entity or facilitates that co-creatorship. Faith being the access key to that facilitation (using the white light). Almost that the use of faith to welcome and use the 'items-of-faith-giving-white-light' must be 'personalised' rather than provisioned or induced by 'a guy in the clouds god that will do for you' etc.
It's great as this thread is dealing with things I'm working with, trying to figure out.. so any comments, criticisms welcome.
To have a go at a definition.. I would say that faith is creating and maintaining for yourself a 'knowing' of 'something more' or 'all is well'. Less locally, faith would be that 'knowing' being based on the Original Thought- that original thought residing with infinity/unity there is wholeness/wellness and infinite potential/promise, [? these being the 'items' of faith?].
So these 'items' of faith find form in ideas of continuance past 'death' and such, [? and gradually through using the space for realising that there's something beyond experience and then to create and be more than the sum of your experiences, the items of faith reside more and more with the self ?], that 'something more' eventually being fully found in the present and oneself.
In this way, one can see how separation in world view resulting in splitting of agency (through moving out of responsibility), would mean that faith would be put in external agencies (for wholeness/wellness and potential/promise), like 'ancestors', 'spirits', 'a guy in the clouds god', etc..
So I semi-imagine for a realised co-Creator, faith to be an approach to 'the present' (disposition outside proof/knowing of there being access to potential and wholeness) and as a base for 'the reaching' or your willingness to make something 'more' of it. In third density, that 'more' would be love; again in the integrating and creative aspects.
The perspective of the above is how I view the Ra Q/A 82.29- the 'white light of the infinite creator being that which either overwhelms the co-creatorship of the third density entity or facilitates that co-creatorship. Faith being the access key to that facilitation (using the white light). Almost that the use of faith to welcome and use the 'items-of-faith-giving-white-light' must be 'personalised' rather than provisioned or induced by 'a guy in the clouds god that will do for you' etc.
It's great as this thread is dealing with things I'm working with, trying to figure out.. so any comments, criticisms welcome.