12-23-2011, 05:37 PM
(12-23-2011, 10:52 AM)Icaro Wrote:(12-23-2011, 09:20 AM)Namaste Wrote: We're not the harvesters, there's a fleet of beings in charge of that.
Totally disagree. I'll be making a thread about this subject over the weekend. As you say, it has to do with offering our vibration.
We are only responsible for our own harvest (our violet ray determines that). We cannot do that for another; free will. We can however, be responsible to others, and as Ra mentioned, offer catalyst.
Ra states there are various levels of entities which watch over the harvest. Wanderers were not included :¬)
Quote:51.1 Questioner: ... The first is clearing up the final point about harvest. I was wondering if there is a supervision over the harvest and if so, why this supervision is necessary and how it works since an entity’s harvestability is determined by the violet ray? Is it necessary for entities to supervise the harvest, or is it automatic?
Ra: I am Ra. In time of harvest there are always harvesters. The fruit is formed as it will be, but there is some supervision necessary to ensure that this bounty is placed as it should be without the bruise or the blemish.
There are those of three levels watching over harvest.
The first level is planetary and that which may be called angelic. This type of guardian includes the mind/body/spirit complex totality or Higher Self of an entity and those inner plane entities which have been attracted to this entity through its inner seeking.
The second class of those who ward this process are those of the Confederation who have the honor/duty of standing in the small places at the edge of the steps of light/love so that those entities being harvested will not, no matter how confused or unable to make contact with their Higher Self, stumble and fall away for any reason other than the strength of the light. These Confederation entities catch those who stumble and set them aright so that they may continue into the light.
The third group watching over this process is that group you call the Guardians. This group is from the octave above our own and serves in this manner as light bringers. These Guardians provide the precise emissions of light/love in exquisitely fastidious disseminations of discrimination so that the precise light/love vibration of each entity may be ascertained.
Thus the harvest is automatic in that those harvested will respond according to that which is unchangeable during harvest. That is the violet ray emanation. However, these helpers are around to ensure a proper harvesting so that each entity may have the fullest opportunity to express its violet ray selfhood.
(12-23-2011, 03:27 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Wanderers don't need this catalyst.
Yes, they do. Ra specifically states they they use it for their own polarisation, as it has much more effect here (3D) than in the harmonious densities.
TN Wrote:Yes, at some level those things are in place to help people out when they are in a tough spot. But when society becomes dependent upon them, when they become a crutch, there is a serious problem.
It's how it works, Wanderers incarnate to help; it's a means of service. You'd better file a complaint with the Logos :¬)
TN Wrote:Same thing is going on with all this catalyst flying around. So I can use it to polarize even more positively, and to grow in compassion. So what? All that means is that wanderers are not letting all this good catalyst go to waste... but it was not meant for us in the first place. It was meant for all those people with their heads in the dirt.
Perhaps you misunderstood. The point is that it's of benefit to those who need the catalyst most; those in the sinkhole of indifference. According to Q'uo, the catalyst at this point in time is exceedingly powerful, one can learn many lessons in a relatively short period of time. They could bump from 50% to 51% STO and graduate.
You also imply by that statement that there is limited catalyst. I am of the notion that we each get exactly what we need.
TN Wrote:Quote:The solar system spirals into an area of the galaxy which aids the creation of the 4D sphere, completed by 21/12/2012. No where in the material does it state (or even hint) that only 51% STO beings will exist in third density after this time.
So let me ask you this... as the planet continues to spiral into higher and higher frequencies, how exactly is one who does not accept or respond to these new energies supposed to stay physical, if they have not done the work necessary to prepare themselves to receive it?
They prepare during 3D. They make the choice; the reason for this density. When the time of harvest comes, if they chose love more than half of their life(s), they will incarnate next in 4D+.
If they don't, they will incarnate on another sphere that offers third density catalyst/incarnations.