12-22-2011, 07:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-22-2011, 11:27 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
(12-22-2011, 01:29 PM)Namaste Wrote: You've been doing it for XX,000 thousand years, a few more won't hurt ;¬)
Yes, sure. I suppose I would "survive". (Whatever that really means!) Yet I would offer...
1.6 Wrote:Ra: This distortion is not in any case necessary.
Maybe it is time to learn to polarize through peace, love, and joy, rather than war, hate, and sorrow. That was, is, and ever shall be, possible in a 3D environment. Part of the manipulation here in this particular 3D environment is the idea that suffering is "necessary" or "good for us," or that we "did something to deserve it."
Namaste Wrote:Q'uo mentions that we'll be gifted more and more opportunities to polarise in the direction we have chosen. That can only be a good thing if you're genuinely interested in serving others. If you're fed up here, think about what that entails. Who are you thinking of? Food for thought :¬)
This is a good point. Though I am not really coming from escapism. If I may be so bold- I consider myself to be a wanderer. Which means... I am not here primarily to help others polarize. I am here to assist with the harvest of those who, of their own accord and free-will choices, and acceptance of carefully constructed catalyst, have already polarized.
We are not the Gardeners. We are the Harvesters.
Quote:I know people who hate people and love animals. I know people who love people and hate animals. I know people who love both, and I know people who love neither. I know people who love a few people, and hate many more. I know people who love some animals, and hate others.
There are no limits, the possibilities are infinite.
Yes, we are all one, but that's taking it down too many fractal levels; the point is that people predominantly love conditionally. They serve others (choose love) in some contexts, and themselves (fear) in others.
Selective service sounds STS to me.
Namaste Wrote:Wanting to serve others does not mean one would choose prolonging the suffering just so they could.
So then... what would be the point of prolonging the suffering post-2012, again? You've lost me here. It looks like you have contradicted yourself to me.
Look... say we have another 250 - 1000 years of cohabitation between negatively, positively, and non-polarized people. Will that really make a difference? I would conjecture that however many years would pass, and we would still pretty much end up in the same place we are now. Only with the positive more positive, the negative more negative, and the sinkhole even deeper than it is now. Then what? Yet another extension or "time lateral"? Another intervention? What's The Plan, Stan?
250 years, 2500 years, 25000 years, 250000 years. It doesn't matter. There will always be "somebody" who was right on the edge, but didn't quite make graduation. There will always be "somebody" who, at the very last second, pulls their head out of their rear and cries, "But if only I had more time!" Little did they realize, they had more than enough time. They just squandered it on distractions. Hopefully, this somewhat harsh lesson is what will ensure that they don't squander the next 25,000 years as well.
I didn't set Creation up this way... why should I lament over it?
Moreover, I don't recall ever taking a "bodhisattva vow". I came here to do a job, and go home. Just like millions upon millions of other wanderers. Our job is to assist with the harvest, not hang around indefinitely until every last straggling human crosses the 51% mark. We are here in response to a call, which means our response-ability is to those who made the call. No more, no less.
Namaste Wrote:One could also offer the notion that it's selfish to want it to be peaceful post 2012, as that's removing the opportunity of choice/catalyst to entities here which may benefit from it. 3D Earth is 3D Earth. It offers (hard) lessons and choices. That's the point, and that's why many incarnate here :¬)
But this is not what the Creator intended for 3D Earth to be, and it is not what Gaia intended for it to be. Is humanity really "better off" for having lived the last 75000 years in a near-perpetual state of war? Is fratricide and enslavement a "good idea" because they can result in positive polarization? The ends don't justify the means. That is STS thinking.
(Those are rhetorical questions, and I don't perceive your thinking to really be along those lines. I am just trying to make a point here. )
Namaste Wrote:Remember, there are infinite spheres to incarnate on. If souls want an easy trip, they can choose it. If they want a hard one, like this place, they can choose it.
Fair enough. Though I am not entirely sure that every soul has that kind of choice. I think for many souls, they came here long ago expecting one thing, and got handed something very different. I don't think they can simply "choose a different planet" quite yet.
Namaste Wrote:Sounds selfish to me ;¬)
But the concern is not for myself. The concern is for others who are being held hostage to the indifference of the majority. We are in a consensus reality. There are many wonderful things "waiting in the wings" for humanity, but they cannot be brought forth until it would no longer be a violation of free will. This involves removal of those who are choosing not to choose to another sphere, where they can continue exploring the lessons of apathy and indifference without infringement by those who desire something more.
Namaste Wrote:The second point is why we're here. It's the point of being a Wanderer - to help others make the harvest. Wanting to cut the time short in a 'too bad' fashion seems quite backwards/STS to me.
But the time hasn't been "cut short". Quite to the contrary, it has been most graciously extended, and everybody has already received more than ample catalyst necessary to result in positive polarization. And we have a whole 'nother year of it coming, just to make crystal clear where everybody stands. Or sleeps, as the case may be.
Correct me if I am mistaken, but it sounds to me like you feel everybody here on earth is truly striving for spiritual growth. There are large swaths of humanity who couldn't care less about serving others, and/or pay little more than lip service to spirituality. And the more catalyst they are given, the deeper they dig in their heels and fold their arms in resistance. They have refused the choice again, and again, and again. After a certain point, it just sounds like throwing good catalyst after bad to me. These folks need to go back to square one. It really would be for the best, in the humble opinion of this 6D dropout.
Namaste Wrote:Is that not why we came here, after all? :¬)
Well, sure. I'm not trying to take myself out of the game. I am saying, let's get ON with it already!