Q'uo: The harvest began in 1987

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Those involved in the destruction of a planet will be balancing 'karma' from acts of a high STS foundation. I don't think that coming here to serve Gaia would indicate a mandatory 51% STO polarity.

Yes, I can see your points. My impression on this has been that the vast majority of those coming from destroyed planetary environments are not directly responsible for the destruction, but rather were more complicit in the "cosmic crime".

An individual is complicit in a crime if he/she is aware of its occurrence and has the ability to report the crime, but fails to do so. As such, the individual effectively allows criminals to carry out a crime despite possibly being able to stop them, either directly or by contacting the authorities, thus making the individual a de-facto accessory to the crime rather than an innocent bystander.

One need only take a glancing look at the world right now to see how this attitude is still being played out all over the place.

One can be 80% STS and still be of 20% STO (exclusively towards Gaia, but selfish with regards to other humans and animals). It's not STS or STO, it's STS and STO. They are not mutually exclusive.

Yes, the situation can definitely become oversimplified. And I would note... if Don hadn't asked about the "planetary changes" and if Ra hadn't spoke of "harvest" so soon, this may have not come up in Session 17.

However, for discussion purposes, I would offer a challenge to the notion you put forth that one can be "STO" toward Gaia or the animals, and "STS" toward other humans. Are not Gaia, the animals, and humans, one? I would propose that those who are focused on "saving the earth" or "saving the animals" to the exclusion of service to their fellow humans might not be as "STO" as they style themselves to be. Kind of looks like sticking one's head in the sand to me. I see it as a distraction from the truth- that one needs to save oneself. No more, no less.

40.16 Questioner: Just two. With respect to what you just said, would then people incarnating here by seniority of vibration who incarnate in the service-to-self path be ones who would have extreme difficulty mentally with this green ray vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. It is rather the numbers who have distracted themselves and failed to prepare for this transition yet who are somewhat susceptible to its influence who may be affected.

Um... yes? This appears to support what I am saying! Remember, there is often a large discrepancy between one's vibratory state in the pre-incarnative period, and what they display while incarnated here. For example, this would explain why wanderers have a risk of getting depolarized and having to re-enter the incarnative evolutionary cycle.

But please describe in more detail your thoughts on this topic...

There is a chance that, post 2012, someone could go from 50% STO to 51% STO, and hence make the harvest. That is indeed why they have incarnated; a seniority of vibration.

You appear to be overlooking all the years and decades these people have already experienced in order to make that transition. Again, look out at the world and everything that has been going on. If THAT hasn't been enough to get people over the edge, I can't imagine what WOULD BE. I suppose we will find out next year...

17.41 Questioner: At this time, near the end of the cycle, how are reincarnations into the physical allocated, shall we say, on this planet?

Ra: I am Ra. Entities wishing to obtain critically needed experience in order to become harvestable are incarnated with priority over those who will, without too much probable/possible doubt, need to re-experience this density.

17.42 Questioner: How long has this type of allocation been going on?

Ra: I am Ra. This has been going on since the first individual entity became conscious of its need to learn the lessons of this density. This was the beginning of what you may call a seniority by vibration.

Session 17 alert!

I can't see any benefit, or have read any quotes to back it up, that it's impossible to do so post 2012.

Here is the benefit: for all the others who would like to get started on their next set of lessons, but are being held back by the spiritual inertia generated by the masses caught in the "sinkhole of indifference".

Might I suggest another perspective? How selfish is it for one to expect the rest of humanity to wait around forever while one hems and haws about doing their spiritual work? How is that STO? How can one possibly polarize with that kind of attitude?

These people have, yet again, "distracted themselves and failed to prepare for this transition". They will be given as many chances as they need, of course, in the grand scheme of things. But for right now, everybody else would like to move on. They have waited long enough.

Remember, this was all slated to have been said and done by 1998. My apologies if this sounds "arrogant" or "uncompassionate" but we have already been granted an extra 15 years of "overtime". If somebody hasn't taken advantage of all that extra catalyst by now, I say: too sad, too bad. Better luck next time.

Mine: with complete 'equality', all those incarnated have their remaining lives to polarise and balance (or not).

Yours: only those harvestable are permitted experience post 2012.

Yes, I think you have summed it up in a nutshell. While it is not at all necessary for us to agree, one of us must have the wrong idea? As we are both willing to accept the possibility of our own mistaken-ness, perhaps further discourse would prove fruitful!

I have offered a few further thoughts on this... if you don't mind, I would like to kind of turn your statement on its head:

I can't see any benefit, or have read any quotes to back it up, to having unpolarized (or negatively polarized) entities incarnated on earth post 2012.

What say you?