12-03-2011, 01:43 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-03-2011, 01:52 AM by Tenet Nosce.)
(12-03-2011, 01:10 AM)Diana Wrote: Could we please, for the sake of this discussion, assume that none of the vegetarians on this site are the anti-meat activists you describe
OK.
Diana Wrote:This seems to suggest to me that you view the peaceful and harmonious existence as only involving humans and humans. There are plants, animals, minerals, the planet earth itself; all manner of life to be in peaceful coexistence with.
No. All I am suggesting is a natural outgrowth. For example, one cannot make peace with others until they have made peace with the self. This is a prerequisite, although many are still attempting to bypass this fundamental step.
The next step is to make peace with humanity. There is so much work to be done here that I would almost call it obscene. Then we have the animals, and the plants, and then Gaia herself.
The response here is typically... why not all at once? Well, why not is because we need to do the first step first. We can't skip right to the end. Believe me, I've tried!

Diana Wrote:Aren't we trying to explore this issue and its "higher" implications?
OK, so let's roll with that. Let's say you, me and everybody else here is probably a wanderer. Or at least that we all got the 51% thing going for us.
Alright. So I recently purchased a lamb. It was raised organically by a farmer whom I met personally. He and his wife left their corporate jobs to be able to spend more time with their children. Raising organic lamb is part of how they support their family. Two days ago, I ate some of this lamb and found it to be quite delicious.
What would you say are the "higher" implications of this? Anything I really should be concerned about in the grand scheme of things?