11-23-2011, 05:09 PM
(11-23-2011, 04:44 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(11-23-2011, 04:25 PM)Ens Entium Wrote: Is it just me or was post #1498 ignored??
Wouldn't matter really but that post in particular was getting to the core of this 'debate'.
I don't know why no one else responded to it, but can only speak for myself. In short, I disagreed with Austin's views in this particular post, and had already explained why. His post was responding to my post.
Interesting that you consider that post as 'getting to the core of the debate.' There are many other posts that I think 'get to the core of the debate' but were ignored.
I see, I just assumed it was ignored because since following this thread almost every post that someone has disagreed with has had some justification.
Of course, it's not required of you to justify why you disagreed with that post, but if you won't then I guess it's essentially subjective and so there's no real basis for disagreeing with his meat-eating. His post was a response to your interpretations, as I saw it. You never replied with why you think your interpretation is correct. For instance, the 'relative term' bit is quite important as that really answers the question.
I say this because, really, what I see other than pros and cons and hypothetical situations, is the question of whether animals have subjective experience and so whether the suffering is 'real' or just a very sophisticated articulation of the programming of survival and growth/proliferation. Whether we consider them 'brothers and sisters' or not. And so on...