11-21-2011, 12:08 AM
(11-20-2011, 08:28 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(11-20-2011, 11:56 AM)zenmaster Wrote: I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but with the 2D entity, there is literally "no one home" - there is no subjective experience when there is no reflective subject. The subject and object are one in the same - the pattern that the 2D mind holds is oriented towards fulfilling a program of growth and reproduction. I think a lot of these anthropomorphic attributions with regards to how such plants and animals process sensation are grossly misplaced. I guess it is unfathomable that life could exist which is not self-aware, but all of 2D falls into this category.
What you just said is completely counter to what Ra has told us.
According to Ra, the criteria for graduating to 3D is self-awareness, and Ra even mentioned Carla's cat as being nearly ready for graduation to 3D. This disproves the idea that there is 'no one home.'
And, anyone who's ever had a dog, cat, horse, or even cow or pig, knows full well that there is 'someone home.'
What you described applies to early 2D (plants, presumably), but not to later 2D. (I thought that's what you meant, until I read your words "all of 2D") The question we're all trying to figure out is, at what point does self-awareness occur. It's that middle point that is elusive.
3D entities are self-aware. 2D aren't. Fairly simple, and of course not "counter to what Ra told us".
(11-20-2011, 08:28 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(11-20-2011, 11:56 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Also, killing off the higher, more socially capable, 2D life forms such as apes (due to deforestation and mining) or dolphins (fishing/pollution) and increasing the pet experience instead is likely the cause of a lot of newcomer 3D confusion here.
Dolphines are 3D, not 2.
Dolphins being 2D would be counter to what Ra told us.