In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

You know, I think as an experiment before this goes farther, the two of you should do a simple LBRP over your PCs, keeping in mind the thought form, or "egregore" I mentioned earlier. I am totally seeing the signs, and would love to hear results in emotional attachments to this thread/topic.

Thanks for the suggestion, Pickle. I have no emotional attachment to what just happened and would like to get back to the topic of the thread.

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My mommy loves me, and she feeds me McDonald's. I love my kids and I feed them McDonald's. McDonald's is an American expression of "love".

Why... if we had to admit that McDonald's is poison, then we would have to admit that our own mommy poisoned us. And that we have been poisoning our children. **GASP** No. No. That couldn't be so.

Just like excessive Halloween and Easter candy. Parents who don't let their kids binge out on candy are depriving them, right?

Beyond this, the First Distortion of "You Create Your Own Reality" says that if you believe McDonald's is healthy "food" for you and your loved ones, then by the magic of intention, that "food" actually ceases being poison, and actually becomes good for you!

Except...it doesn't work that way does it? Most people who eat that stuff do suffer the consequences. Is it because they are asleep and not consciously creating, so are just subject to the physical matter's normal properties? Maybe if they consciously tried to transmute it, it might work and actually become healthy. It would be highly inefficient though. Much easier to start with something healthy to begin with. It's hard enough transmuting all the toxic chemicals we're bombarded with on a daily basis.

Hmm. So are you saying that a more pressing issue might be at play?

Yes. I think most people really do have good intentions, but they just can't think clearly or independently, because they're so drugged. Most of the population is drugged. Even the children.

Nothing wrong with it. And this is another "sticky" issue (hardy-har-har)... but if the people of the world are indeed being sifted onto different timelines... at some point there must be a shift in focus away from reaching out toward these others who are destined for a different path. We have to let them go, eventually.

Right. I see it happening already.

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IMO, the best way to proceed is to raise animals your way, and be happy that it is enough. Cuz if you ain't happy, you ain't helping the world's happiness meter.

I wonder how much all those millions of animals being tortured on a daily basis, is affecting the world's happiness meter.

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Previously, I suggested reframing the debate in terms of land-based vs. sea-based diets, but the comment appears to have been lost in the fray.

Getting caught up...I think that's a stupendous idea! Any ideas on how to pull it off? (Maybe the next generation can go from sea-based to plant-based...?)

There is an over-reaching principle at play here and that is self-righteousness. On one level there appears to be a noble cause, yet on another level a stubborn unwillingness to admit when the tactics involved in promoting said cause are ineffective.

Many anti-meat-eating folk get just as defensive and resentful when others suggest that they might benefit from a change in their strategy. So... not only do we know what is "right" for everybody, but we also know what is the "right" way to go about bringing that change.

Any ideas for a more effective strategy? What would be the basis for promoting a sea-based diet, and how would we go about doing that?

I wonder what kind of programming it is which informs us that when we push for something, and it is not well-received, that the appropriate response is to push harder? And then when pushing harder fails, the appropriate response is to force others to obey our self-righteous demands through the rule of law.

NOTE: Not saying -you- personally do this, just speaking in general terms.

That just all seems like "old world" strategery to me...

I dunno. Maybe because of desperation?