11-15-2011, 06:09 PM
(11-15-2011, 06:02 PM)Diana Wrote:(11-15-2011, 03:01 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:(11-15-2011, 01:58 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: It is possible to love somebody but not love their ways.
I disagree. People are their ways. Either I accept what they do or I don't.
"I love him, but I hate what he does". No, you don't love him. You are being dishonest with yourself.
That is my opinion.
I don't hate the torturer as the torturer is learning his or lessons and has free will to do so (even responsibility, which belongs to no one else). I can say that I am opposed to torture, as a way to live or behave in general, and still accept that the torturer has the free will to torture. I also recognize that, from the point of view of the higher selves, the torturer may be learning something which the tortured has agreed to help with, and which the torturer has agreed to, reciprocally, to help the tortured.
I run into trouble accepting that animals are in a mutual torturer/tortured agreement, although there are theories that this is true. And if the animals are 2D, would it be possible for them to be in this agreement?
I admit to a weakness of wanting to assist the natural process of evolution along . Living here is difficult, or at least it is for me.
Making a choice not to torture is personal. That's all there is to it.
I'm not sure I agreed to "this"!
Did Lactobacillus acidophilus choose its role?