11-14-2011, 03:12 PM
The point about trees was that, according to Ra, members of the vegetable kingdom can become enspirited (not just trees). You had said that they couldn't.
You look at the eating of meat from a specific point of view. In particular, you equate eating meat with slaughterhouses and industrial agriculture. Austin and I and others have tried to point out that there are other models out there.
In my experience, raising and eating animal products, including meat, can be a deeply healing activity for the individual, the community, the environment, and the planet.
And eating industrial vegetables, as Austin also pointed out, is not necessarily good for the vegetables, the humans, or the environment.
I think it's indicative of a flaw, to some extent, in your thought process that you think you know better than our Logos how second-density should be structured. As I've pointed out, each offers itself to each. That can be a deeply spiritual realization, if you will let it. Consider the Native Americans, who Ra said were spiritually advanced. They ate meat (and still do), but they did so with honor and reverence for the sacrifice the animal was making.
In my opinion, it's about consciousness, not about picking and choosing the correct set of actions. Yes, we should know how our food is raised and how it is harvested. Yes, we should do as much of it ourselves as we can. Those are areas where we can easily agree, and I think it might make more sense to focus on agreements rather than disagreements.
But the idea that eating blue-green algae out of a can is more evolved than eating a cow, chicken, goat, or pig one has raised oneself, or a deer one has shot oneself, is not a very compelling claim, in my opinion.
You look at the eating of meat from a specific point of view. In particular, you equate eating meat with slaughterhouses and industrial agriculture. Austin and I and others have tried to point out that there are other models out there.
In my experience, raising and eating animal products, including meat, can be a deeply healing activity for the individual, the community, the environment, and the planet.
And eating industrial vegetables, as Austin also pointed out, is not necessarily good for the vegetables, the humans, or the environment.
I think it's indicative of a flaw, to some extent, in your thought process that you think you know better than our Logos how second-density should be structured. As I've pointed out, each offers itself to each. That can be a deeply spiritual realization, if you will let it. Consider the Native Americans, who Ra said were spiritually advanced. They ate meat (and still do), but they did so with honor and reverence for the sacrifice the animal was making.
In my opinion, it's about consciousness, not about picking and choosing the correct set of actions. Yes, we should know how our food is raised and how it is harvested. Yes, we should do as much of it ourselves as we can. Those are areas where we can easily agree, and I think it might make more sense to focus on agreements rather than disagreements.
But the idea that eating blue-green algae out of a can is more evolved than eating a cow, chicken, goat, or pig one has raised oneself, or a deer one has shot oneself, is not a very compelling claim, in my opinion.