10-21-2011, 04:49 PM
I'd also like to mention that I've finished and the HH material and I don't have a firm opinion on what exactly HH means by the world "polarizing negative". I shall examine it further and offer an interpretation when I have time.
Then we do agree here. I was attempting to draw a distinction between choosing not to act as others act and condemning others for their motivations which are merely other than your own. It is worth mentioning that the negative polarity seems to draw more emotional debates between LOO followers than any other subject I have seen yet, though my experience is in some ways small. As far as I understand the words, "shouldn't be supportive," they partake in the praise/condemnation polarity which is what lies behind the notions of right and wrong. Obviously, you can mean whatever you want by them and this comment may only reflect my own misinterpretation.
If the 'light touch' is not practiced with grace, then it is a matter of course that the person who 'doubts' and then attempts to use this light touch will receive a karmic response, a catalyst indicating that the touch needs to be lighter. Those who defend the original opinion against the opposing opinion are that catalyst in this case. Witness this specific instance.
In my ongoing process of learning the light touch (the hard way), I have found that a graceless effort often comes in tandem with a misunderstanding of the person I want to 'touch' -- a misunderstanding about which I must learn to be silent.
I would like to thank everyone who has been communicating in this particular thread. Every time I post I find myself reflecting on my words, only to discover that everything I have said to each of you has also been something I needed to hear myself. You do reflect my own reality back to me, after all. Thank you for that opportunity.
Icaro Wrote:I'm not disagreeing..as I've clarified above. One can have an opinion while also having already accepted these things on a deeper level. Otherwise, all action has no consequence and therefore you have no service to provide, so one might as well stay in their house and do nothing.
Then we do agree here. I was attempting to draw a distinction between choosing not to act as others act and condemning others for their motivations which are merely other than your own. It is worth mentioning that the negative polarity seems to draw more emotional debates between LOO followers than any other subject I have seen yet, though my experience is in some ways small. As far as I understand the words, "shouldn't be supportive," they partake in the praise/condemnation polarity which is what lies behind the notions of right and wrong. Obviously, you can mean whatever you want by them and this comment may only reflect my own misinterpretation.
Icaro Wrote:Have you ever noticed that in these discussions of finding truth, when one offers an opinion of doubt against another's truth, people typically defend the opinion being critiqued as an exercise of acceptance, yet at the same time ignore the value of the opposing opinion? This person is then viewed as exhibiting qualities of "non-acceptance" because they disagree. In the act of preserving the opinion of one, you dismiss the other. This kind of thinking prevents any kind of real discernible truth from being obtained, because insight is always held at a distance rather than being examined. At some point a person has to transcend certain limits of comfort in seeking/discussion (honesty) if you want to seek in a balanced manner. Otherwise you will always view insightful commentary as infringing upon another's ability to hold onto their truth. There is of course a way to do this with some grace. We can only offer our opinion in various ways and if there isn't agreement, move on.
If the 'light touch' is not practiced with grace, then it is a matter of course that the person who 'doubts' and then attempts to use this light touch will receive a karmic response, a catalyst indicating that the touch needs to be lighter. Those who defend the original opinion against the opposing opinion are that catalyst in this case. Witness this specific instance.
In my ongoing process of learning the light touch (the hard way), I have found that a graceless effort often comes in tandem with a misunderstanding of the person I want to 'touch' -- a misunderstanding about which I must learn to be silent.
I would like to thank everyone who has been communicating in this particular thread. Every time I post I find myself reflecting on my words, only to discover that everything I have said to each of you has also been something I needed to hear myself. You do reflect my own reality back to me, after all. Thank you for that opportunity.