Following the 4th Density Harvest, what will we perceive?

[JustLikeYou]

Wow. It's hard to know where to begin.

Steve, godwide_void and 3D, your contributions seem generally well-balanced to me. This is appreciated. I have not finished the HH material, but I have read most of it and it all seems to cohere very nicely with the Ra material. I obviously don't expect that the next couple of years will play out the way HH suggested it will, but that is only a small piece of disagreement.

zenmaster, what do you mean by "unethical"? I can attempt to interpret you, but I shall choose instead to use the simplest definition I know: unethical is that which breaches a code of ethics. The question then becomes, whose code of ethics is breached by the act of lying? If it is only your code of ethics that is breached, then the word is strangely solipsistic since it includes only your worldview. I happen to know that it is perfectly ethical for an STS entity to lie. It's just that they use a different ethical system than you. For what it's worth, I have reason to believe that HH may not, in fact, be lying. My philosophical training has taught me that I learn much more when I attempt to interpret an author generously, giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming that the story makes sense, trusting that inconsistencies will reveal themselves as I go.

As truth seekers who value honesty, we shouldn't be supportive of misleading and dishonest approaches to the truth. In reality there are many who are imbalanced, and now as a consequence, believe this fantasy side story and it only leads them further from the truth, distorting their seeking.

Everyone you meet is a mirror (19.12 ), reflecting to you what you think, do and feel. If you judge the actions of some part of your experience as unacceptable, then you have already judged some part of your own actions as unacceptable. All is to be accepted. All is to be forgiven. All is to be loved. "In truth, there is no right and wrong" (1.6 ). If you see dishonesty in another, you are somehow dishonest. It is okay. It isn't wrong, just imbalanced (that is, if you are STO). Love the part of yourself which is dishonest. Accept it. Then move forward. Honesty will eventually come and the people who find themselves in your awareness will reflect this honesty back to you.



unity100, I hope I am not breaching your free will in saying this, but since I am the target of it, I will comment. I have noticed that you frequently underestimate your interlocutor both in her intelligence and in her familiarity with the LOO material. It may benefit you to consider the meaning of this trend.

With that out of the way, let me first state that shortly after I entered my last post, I reflected upon my own experience and decided that the word "malice" to be an appropriate word to describe an STS specific emotion. My only proviso is to reiterate that it must be understood to be an emotion whose source is not an imbalanced lower chakra. Rather, it must be understood to be pleasure at feasting upon the energy of another.

But we have to go back further than this word in order for the real thrust of my statement in this post to be made.

there is nothing not to understand about rasputin's love excesses and insatiable sexual apetite, nothing not to understand about genghis khan systematically mowing down people. they just did these.

Assumptions like these are foolhardy. The human mind is capable of great subtlety and powerful minds do not suffer cognitive dissonance. Rasputin and Genghis Khan had very good reasons for doing what they did. They knew how to increase their own power by draining the life out of others. Remember that in underestimating others, you also underestimate yourself: the mind contains all.

the entire sts path is comprised of imbalance of lower chakras with extreme activity in any way possible. overemphasis and enforcement of one's own red, orange and yellow is negative path.

The simplest and most robust response to this statement is to ask you to consider the Archetypes. A brief examination of these and Ra's statements about them will reveal to you that balance is an absolute necessity regardless of which path you choose.

In 93.24, Ra says: "We may indicate that the crux ansata is a part of the concept complexes of the archetypical mind, the circle indicating the magic of the spirit, the cross indicating that nature of manifestation which may only be valued by the losing. Thus the crux ansata is intended to be seen as an image of the eternal in and through manifestation and beyond manifestation through the sacrifice and the transformation of that which is manifest."

The cross appears in so many of the archetypes that it is not even worth naming them. Look up a tarot card and it probably has a cross of some kind in it. "That which may only be valued by losing" is a fairly accurate way of depicting the act of balancing. When you balance, you sacrifice some aspect of creation in order to experience another. Zenmaster brought up the quotation about fasting. This is an example of sacrifice. Do you not realize what STS sacrifices? Do you not realize how much willpower it takes to be powerful and not connect with human beings?

But I doubt this will satisfy you, so I will give you something more direct.

In 46.7 : "The negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complex will use this anger in a similarly conscious fashion, refusing to accept the undirected or random energy of anger and instead, through will and faith, funneling this energy into a practical means of venting the negative aspect of this emotion so as to obtain control over other-self, or otherwise control the situation causing anger."

It seems to me that "undirected or random energy" are the tell-tale signs of imbalance, here being rejected on the STS path.

In 49.5 , "The most important concept to grasp about the energy field is that the lower or negative pole will draw the universal energy into itself from the cosmos. Therefrom it will move upward to be met and reacted to by the positive spiraling energy moving downward from within. The measure of an entity’s level of ray activity is the locus wherein the south pole outer energy has been met by the inner spiraling positive energy.

As an entity grows more polarized this locus will move upwards. This phenomenon has been called by your peoples the kundalini. However, it may better be thought of as the meeting place of cosmic and inner, shall we say, vibratory understanding."

Ra clearly states here that polarizing will cause the kundalini to move upward. This means that the energy centers must absolutely be balanced or else the energy will spray outward rather than moving upward in a single column. Imagine an imbalanced top. How long will it stand straight up? Both polarities demand balance.

the entity can graduate as long as it can function as a sentient, self-conscious and aware entity and it fills emission or absorption requirements.

This is true, but balance is necessary in order to achieve this end. Otherwise the meeting point of your kundalini will never interact with the 4th chakra enough to either activate it or block and skip it.

sure. then tell us how would resonating with the 'truth' that 'there is no gravity' would change things for someone.

Resonance is literally the only way you will ever find truth. In other words, every story you hear which purports to be a true story must first filter through your own truth-detector before you are willing to agree that it is, in fact, truth. No piece of evidence will ever verify truth for you because proof is impossible in this illusion.

nomatter how much you resonate with whatever you can imagine or hear, the basic mechanisms and rules that were created to make this reality possible will keep acting as they were created to be.

Yes, they will remain what they are, which means that my truth detector will need precision in order to pick them up. And then my mind will need clarity in order to check them for coherence. If you can't trust yourself, unity, who can you trust?

if, you could 'resonate' and change these things, there would be no reality to speak of.

I'm beginning to think you do not define this term in the same way most people I meet define it. A debate over vocabulary is rarely worth the effort.

the persona you named hidden hand fails the first check, since it declares itself to be a 'sts entity'. service to self entails everything that is to the benefit of self, including lying and manufacturing things, regardless of its consequences to others.

Again, a Ra quotation (borrowed from zenmaster).

"11.18: Questioner: Then we have crusaders from Orion coming to this planet for mind control purposes. How do they do this?

Ra: I am Ra. As all, they follow the Law of One observing free will. Contact is made with those who call. Those then upon the planetary sphere act much as do you to disseminate the attitudes and philosophy of their particular understanding of the Law of One which is service to self. These become the elite. Through these, the attempt begins to create a condition whereby the remainder of the planetary entities are enslaved by their free will."

The key phrase is this: "enslaved by their free will". Hidden Hand openly acknowledges that the people on ATS are not capable of being swayed by the lies and manipulation which are the standard fare of STS. It is also worth mentioning that STS entities are well aware of the laws of karma. Thus, it is in their interests to make sure that the enslavement is freely chosen. You obviously cannot freely choose if the answers are not made available to you. Therefore, STS must make the answers available. In other words, they must occasionally tell as much of the truth as they reasonably can (in the right place, of course) so that a genuine attempt at freely chosen slavery is possible.

It is an unsafe assumption that because Hidden Hand is STS, his message is therefore a lie. Karmically, this would be highly perilous for a successful group of STS entities like the Ruling Bloodlines.

excuse me but there is no 'past' in this. if this planet was negatively polarizing, what you say 'past barbaric actions' would be the order of the day and the dominant tool of polarization.

I think you misunderstand HH. The notion that the planet is polarizing negatively seems to be the subject of much misunderstanding. What I understand HH to mean is that the overall polarity of the entire enslaved population must be below 50% STO, otherwise STS entities are not harvestable. If you consider that most of the population is stuck in the orange ray, the probability is high that our overall world-wide polarity is below 50% (since 51% STO is harvestable). Though Ra never mentions this stipulation, it does not contradict anything in the material as far as I know. So I see no problem with entertaining it as a possiblity.

this includes not accepting sts behavior.

All must be accepted and integrated. You don't have to act as STS entities do, but -- assuming you seek adepthood (and you may not) -- you must still learn to love them and discover that they are already just as perfect as you are.

you have used your judgment, in order to discern a negative behavior set that is incompatible with your chosen path. that is how it is supposed to be. there are endless iterations of judge, judgment, using judgment in the material we are discussing.

A distinction is necessary here. Judgement can be used in two ways: one of them is what you have just described. The other is what you have just described, plus moral condemnation. The first is very useful; the second is an act of repression.

bottom line is, he is sending people in the RIGHT direction with WRONG assumptions, like how people are made believe that malice is in fact not malice, or how sts is not actually sts.

I am not as feeble-minded as you think I am. My ideas are my own. I have been pondering the essence of STO vs. STS long before I discovered HH.

Again, unity, I do not expect to have swayed you mind. You will see what you want to see. You will choose which parts of my words resonate with you and which do not. And these will define what is true in my words. Everything I have spoken is truth in my world. My perception of this truth can change from time to time allowing me a greater degree of clarity, precision and coherence. Nevertheless, it is still a vision of truth. It may well be that you do not see this same vision. In fact, I know you won't. I simply offer you an opportunity to make use of my vision of truth to incorporate into your own, if you so desire -- if it 'resonates' with you.

Finally, I cannot find the quote, but I find it strangely revealing when you suggested that Hidden Hand is "just a person". Just a person? A person is everything. Do you really grasp how infinite and beautiful each human being is? How powerful? How capable of insight? And occasionally how greatly balanced? Every human being who walks into your life is a messenger from the heavens. Do you always shoot the messenger because she is "just a person"?