(10-15-2011, 09:50 AM)Odinn Wrote:(10-14-2011, 11:37 AM)Edinburgh Wrote: Thanks for that quote Odinn - I can say that my experience was the same, in terms of the message I received. Not so much 'beings of light' in my experience, but rather lots of voices. And the thought, again and again, that everything came back to love. I tried thinking about "this", it came back to love. I tried thinking of "that", it came back to love. I tried to think about things that I found hard to do or deal with, i.e. people or 'problems' I thought I had ... everything came back to love. Even the 'bad' stuff came back to love. Love was all there was.I've never experienced something like that, a ND situation (the closest one I knew of was in my family). What amazed me at first (and served me later as a clear confirmation) was how hundreds of very different people talk about in exactly the same way (putting aside cultural/behavioral/learned details, such as open fields or light tunnels). the feeling of deep love and peacefulness.
That's why in the end I felt the whole Aya experience was valid. The things I saw and felt were mirrored by people describing thier NDE experiences. So there MUST be some validity to what everyone experiences.
That has been since a "proof" that real rules and real goals and real "reasons" are much more different than what we learn and we think we know "down here".
Thanks for your comments, Edinburgh :-)
You are welcome Odinn. Actually your posting of the material by Michael Talbot, you sent me off on a completely different new research direction!!
This is how the thought process went ...
Due to comments made by Unity100, and other friends on Bring4th, I've been doing some thinking. Not everyone is prepared to use ayahuasca to enter a out of body state. I started looking for other ways, without using medicines/ drugs/ or extreme fasting. There's a lot of worry about what might happen, using aya. Finding a shaman at short notice is not a possibility either, for most people living in the modern world.
I then watched a documentary recently called 'spirit space' - in it they describe the work of a group of scientists, including work of a declassified US army program, that explored entering such out of body experiences, using SOUND, it's called the hemi-sync program. The work was pioneered by Robert Monroe of the Monroe Institute (http://www.monroeinstitute.org/hemi-sync/)
Apparently, the good folks at the army did hundreds of these out of body experiences and all through sound activation. The man in-charge eventually left and became the head of the Monroe Institute. The 'spirit space' documentary talks about their findings: Apparently, the universe is a hologram, constructed with special mathematics. The same maths is used in our brains operation; so our brains work like a hologram. Michael Talbot explains the whole thing succinctly on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiwsmf4uS7E&feature=related).
So, hemi-sync works by balancing the left and right brain, so our 'hologram' brain can tune into the hologram universe - accessing akashic records, group mind, other levels of reality, etc. I think I'd like to meet those 'angels of light' and learn more about love, from the source of it all!